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Bad Scene (one of Greg's old Ungol tunes, formerly known as "Tight Teen")-Perry Grayson, 20 Jun 2004
One can only smirk at Garven’s lyrics for "Tight Teen" (circa 1976).-Perry Grayson, 31 Jan 2006
She’s a tight teen, miniature queen
Not much more than a kid
She’s a tight teen, minuature queen
Seems I always rob the crib
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Title
Tracks
Year
A cassette demo known as "Orange Album", "Orange Demo", "Orange Label" or simply as "Album". Limited to a few hundred copies.
Armed with their own Dokorder reel-to-reel 4 track recorder, Cirith Ungol whapped out a tape chock full of their blistering tunes. The cassette demo "album" had an orange cover, and it was distributed at gigs. Some of the tunes on the orange cassette included "Show You All" sung by Rob, "Route 666" sung by Greg, "We Know You’re Out There" sung by exiting Neal Beattie and entering Tim Baker and "High Speed Love" sung by Tim Baker.
-Perry Grayson, 31 Jan 2006
We recorded a 12 track demo cassette (the “Orange Album”) in 1979, which we sold locally and at shows. “Bite of the Worm” and “Witchdance” from that cassette are on “Servants Of Chaos”. We sent the cassette out to a lot of record companies, but I think they were all looking for another Van Halen at that time, so we decided to release an album ourselves.
-Greg Lindstrom, Dark Tales 4/2002
Title
Tracks
Year
A cassette demo known as "Orange Album", "Orange Demo", "Orange Label" or simply as "Album". Limited to a few hundred copies.
Armed with their own Dokorder reel-to-reel 4 track recorder, Cirith Ungol whapped out a tape chock full of their blistering tunes. The cassette demo "album" had an orange cover, and it was distributed at gigs. Some of the tunes on the orange cassette included "Show You All" sung by Rob, "Route 666" sung by Greg, "We Know You’re Out There" sung by exiting Neal Beattie and entering Tim Baker and "High Speed Love" sung by Tim Baker.
-Perry Grayson, 31 Jan 2006
We recorded a 12 track demo cassette (the “Orange Album”) in 1979, which we sold locally and at shows. “Bite of the Worm” and “Witchdance” from that cassette are on “Servants Of Chaos”. We sent the cassette out to a lot of record companies, but I think they were all looking for another Van Halen at that time, so we decided to release an album ourselves.
-Greg Lindstrom, Dark Tales 4/2002
More on the tracks
With no suitable singer in sight or earshot, friend and roadie Tim Baker tried out for the vocal spot. Although not a trained singer, Baker boasted a unique screaching style all his own. His first stab at recording vocals for a Cirith Ungol song was a "duet" with Neal Beattie on "We Know You’re Out There", a track about alien invasion.-Perry Grayson, 31 Jan 2006
The original song has can be heard at Matt Baker's The Cirith Ungol Legion MySpace group.
Witchdance and Bite of the Worm is available on Servants of Chaos.
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Demo
1. | Frost and Fire | 03:50 |
2. | Last Laugh | 04:07 |
3. | Hype Performance | 02:21 |
4. | The Twitch | 02:15 |
5. | Better Off Dead | 04:35 |
6. | What Does It Take | 03:22 |
7. | Return to Lankhmar | 05:59 |
8. | Darkness Weaves | 06:51 |
9. | A Little Fire (instrumental) | 03:30 |
10. | Title Unknown | 06:22 |
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Demo with Flint
Greg Lindstrom recorded/produced "Flint" Vujea's first band, Possession circa 1979 and played a guest solo. Included on that one is a song with the rather dubious name of "Sandwich Meat"! Dubious perhaps, but worth a good chortling listen in my opinion.-Perry Grayson, 29 Jul 2006
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In our early days we did loads of covers like "Vagabonds Of The Western World" [...] by Thin Lizzy.-Greg Lindstrom, The Corroseum interview
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In our early days we did loads of covers like [...] "Back In '51" by Masters of the Airwaves.-Greg Lindstrom, The Corroseum interview
pretty obscure for sure-but Rob,Greg,and Jerry were already doing Back in 51 when I met them...-Tim Baker, 04 Mar 2011 (facebook comment)
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Why have I not heard this ????? Long-time fan!!!!
~Myche
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Flesh Dart" (Cirith Ungol's '70s live mainstay, which used to showcase a long drum solo by our pal Rob Garven).- Perry Grayson, 20 Jun 2004
There were a few of those, I wrote a great song called “Flesh Dart” which we never recorded except in our home studio. Here is the last verse:-Robert Garven, Sleazegrinder interview Written by Robert Garven
He is the ruler of the deep,
Upon his hands and knees he creeps. He is the ruler of the land,
For he wields a flesh dart in his hand. The time has come for him to rule.
He strains himself to flex his tool. You live in fear of his command,
For against the Flesh Dart none can stand!
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In our early days we did loads of covers like "Gonna Creep Up On You" [...] by Thin Lizzy-Greg Lindstrom, The Corroseum interview.
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Has been re-recorded and released by Falcon on the album "Falcon" (2004), entitled just "Half Past Human".
Great title!
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In our early days we did loads of covers like [...] "Jury" by Trapeze.-Greg Lindstrom, The Corroseum interview
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In our early days we did loads of covers like [...] "Return Of The Farmer's Son" by Thin Lizzy.-Greg Lindstrom, The Corroseum interview
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The first Ungol song was, according to Mr. Lindstrom, entitled "Rock ’n’ Roll Hooker", after which they moved onto even slightly dodgier subjects.
-Perry Grayson, 31 Jan 2006
In the case of "Rock 'n' Roll Hooker", I'm sure the band is rather happy that it never got preserved on magnetic media...-Perry Grayson, 29 Jul 2006
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He [Neil Beattie, CU's first vocalist] was a little more glam inspired than the rest of us, but he put on a really wild live show, with black widow spider fingertip extensions to go along with our six foot wide black widow spider for "Shelob's Lair".-Greg Lindstrom, BallBuster interview
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In our early days we did loads of covers like [...] Sinner by Ursa Major.-Greg Lindstrom, The Corroseum interview
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In our early days we did loads of covers like [...] "Whiskey River" by Budgie.-Greg Lindstrom, The Corroseum interview
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Album
1. |
Frost and Fire | 03:35 |
2. | I'm Alive | 04:58 |
3. | A Little Fire | 03:46 |
4. | What Does It Take | 03:37 |
5. | Edge of a Knife | 04:29 |
6. | Better Off Dead | 04:46 |
7. | Maybe That's Why | 06:15 |
8. | Cirith Ungol (live) |
Hi,
I got this vinyl from Liquid Flame Records, but the year is 1981 (HM13666)!?
Cossack
You are perhaps right. It was recorded December 1980. Released on Enigma Records 31 Jan 1981. Released on Liquid Flame Records somewhere between that. Have read both years multiple places though. HM13666, isn't that the catalogue number for the Enigma edition?
I don’t find any mention of Enigma, only Liquid Flame Records... There’s a mailing list as well (to "fill out and return to be placed on Cirith Ungol’s International List") with adress:
Liquid Flames Productions
349N. Aliso, Suite A
Ventura, CA, U.S.A. 93001
Maybe it’s reissue...?
Wikipedia sais:
Originally released by Cirith Ungol on Liquid Flames Records in 1980, the album was re-released in 1981 by Enigma Records
Metal-Archives also sais 1980.
I dunno, 1981 is probably corrects since thats what is written on your LP.
Yes, I read it too... But it doesn't matter - 80 or 81 - it's great album and that's important!
Thanx and cheers
A runoff matrix is the # on the vinyl next to the label. If you hold the vinyl at the right angle in the light you can see it impressed or etched into the run off at the end of each side. this is where the HM13666 number comes from. So an LF001 is an HM13666. Liquid Flame is Cirith Ungol's label, they created it so they could put there LP out. The Liquid Flame LF001 is their self release. The only other album you'll find released on Liquid Flame records is Falcon S/T CD, this is because Rob Garven is the drummer for Falcon.
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1 | Cold Day in Hell" - Steeler (4:17) |
2 | Live for the Whip" - Bitch (5:19) |
3 | Captive of Light" - Malice (3:21) |
4 | Tell The World" - Ratt (3:16) |
5 | Octave" (instrumental) - Avatar (3:48) |
6 | Death of the Sun ['82 version] - Cirith Ungol (3:56) |
7 | Dead of the Night" - Demon Flight (2:35) |
8 | Fighting Backwards" - Pandemonium (3:44) |
9 | Kick You Down" - Malice (4:28) |
10 | Hit the Lights" - Metallica (Listed as Mettallica) (4:25) |
Brian [Slagel] was putting out his first album “Metal Massacre 1” and starting his own label Metal Blade Records. We were one of the first bands he chose.-Robert Garven, Sleazegrinder interview
Who was on the first Metal Massacre release, and how did you find and choose those acts? I just knew everybody in the scene. They would all just come to the record store. I knew pretty much everybody in the scene. It was Ratt, Steeler, Malice, Avatar, Cirith Ungol, Bitch and of course, Metallica.-Brian Slagel, metalupdate.com-interview
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Album
1. |
Atom Smasher | 04:13 |
2. | Black Machine | 04:16 |
3. | Master of the Pit | 07:09 |
4. | King of the Dead | 06:48 |
5. | Death of the Sun | 03:54 |
6. | Finger of Scorn | 08:34 |
7. | Toccata in Dm (J.S. Bach cover) | 04:37 |
8. | Cirith Ungol | 06:23 |
9. | Last Laugh (Live Bonus Track) |
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A01 | Deceiver [Lee Aaron, Canada] 3'27" |
A02 | Sleepwalker [Jaguar, UK] 3'22" |
A03 | Rats [Maltese Falcon, Denmark] 3'38" |
A04 | Diamonds & Disgrace [Samain, Germany] 3'25" |
A05 | Losing You [Mad Max, Germany] 4'08" |
A06 | Mercenary [Spartan Warrior, UK] 5'20" |
A07 | Black Machine [Cirith Ungol, California] 4'13" |
B01 |
Die By The Sword [Slayer, California] 3'35" |
B02 | Dragon's Breath [Omen, Texas] 3'00" |
B03 | Nightmare [44 Magnum, Japan] 3'40" |
B04 | Blower [Voivod, Kanada] 2'42" |
B05 | Don't Break The Circle [Dark Heart, UK] 4'20" |
B06 | Streetfighter [Black Widow, Belgium] |
B07 | Soldier Boy [Fates Warning, Connecticut] 6'24" |
Roadrunner Compilation
Produced by John Kibble (Compilation)
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Album
1. | Blood & Iron | 03:51 |
2. | Chaos Descends | 04:55 |
3. | The Fire | 03:36 |
4. | Nadsokor | 04:43 |
5. | 100 MPH | 03:26 |
6. | War Eternal | 05:12 |
7. | Doomed Planet | 04:37 |
8. | One Foot in Hell | 05:10 |
Both the rare Reborn Classics double album edition of "One Foot In Hell" with
Armored Saint's "Lesson Well Learned" and the limited picture LP
Don't make me do this,i just picked the one i used to do the heaviest head banging when i was young...!
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Various artists sampler album
A1 | Savage Grace - Sins of the Damned |
A2 | Panther - Set Me Free |
A3 | Bitch - Make It Real |
A4 | Lace - Knightmares |
A5 | Cirith Ungol - I'm Alive |
B1 | Pandemonium - Evil Face |
B2 | Stainless Steel - Goin Deaf For A Living |
B3 | Ruthless - Gates of Hell |
B4 | Stormtrooper - Armies of the Night |
B5 | Savage Grace - Bound To Be Free |
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The 'White Tape' :-Scott Campbell, 04 Mar 2013
Recorded at OUTLOOK studios...It was a very simple recording..on 8 track everything was recorded live...and then we overdubbed leads..and background vocals...in an afternoon...it's is an accurate portrayal of the band at the time raw and in you're face...kick ass!..that's "PROPHECY
SPECIAL THANKS TO Cirith Ungol, Mike at Outlook, Tim Blackwell, Leah, Jon and Dacra, (Officer), J. Irvin, Tom, Andy, Doug, Marc Dole, Calvin, John at J.B. Player, Don at B.C. Rich, Skeletor, Jack (Oh Dude), Doug (Dive Bomb) Young, Sean, Hans, J.R., Tina (You Lop) and Chris. EXTRA SPECIAL THANKS TO Tim Baker and Flint for their undying support.
(campbell/barraza/bailey/grothe)
whoa!!VERSE:look out!... we're movin' in for the killloaded and readywatch out!!...we're aim'n straight at youwith trigger finger steadywe're gonna' burn up the night...we're gonna break loosewith thunder at our fingertips...we're aim'n straight at you!CHORUS:WE'RE Headed for...the eye of the storm...hold on tight yeah...the eye of the stormVERSE:OOO..we're gonna crack the walls...we'll cut like broken glasswith thunder at our fingertips...we're here to kick your ass!tear'n down the barricade...we live to rock and rolland if it seems a little too loud...well maybe you're too old!CHORUS:WE'RE Headed for...the eye of the storm...hold on tight yeah...the eye of the stormBRIDGE:Don't you know we're comin' to get youDon't you know we're gonna take you awayDon't you know we're comin' to get youWE ALWAYS GET OUR WAY!!
To me this is by far the best song on this demo...jimmy just shreds! you can see why ungol welcomed him..!-Scott Campbell, 04 Mar 2013
(campell/barraza/bailey/grothe)
Grothe'("The Crusher" breathing like a madman)
VERSE:
Dead of night..and all through the house
Evil Eyes are watching...not making a sound
Unaware..the time is drawing near..
The smell of fate is dawning..
And HE is getting near..
CHORUS:
Madman see's all..
Madman lurking in the dark..
Madman so vicious..
He brings.. BLACK CHRISTMAS!
VERSE:
Attic toys...such a naughty boy!
Don't you forget to say your prayers..
Won't you answer when he calls
Will you go to heaven.. upstars?
CHORUS:
Madman see's all..
Madman lurking in the dark..
Madman so vicious..
He brings.. BLACK CHRISTMAS!
IT"S A LIVING NIGHTMARE !!!
YEAH,YEAH !!
WHOA WHOAAAAA !!
VERSE:
Feel the fright..racing through you're bones!
You know that he is closing in !
Sneak attack...you're world turns black !
THE MADMAN SITS...AND GRINS!
(REPEAT CHORUS)
EVIL LAUGH! (The Crusher)
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A1 | Lizzy Borden - Notorious |
A2 | Omen - Teeth of the Hydra |
A3 | Fates Warning - Prelude to Ruin |
A4 | Hallows Eve - Lethal Tendencies |
B1 | Slayer - Black Magic |
B2 | Destruction - Eternal Ban |
B3 | Sodom - Deathlike Silence |
B4 | Sentinel Beast - The Dogs of War |
B5 | Détente - Holy War |
B6 | Hirax - Criminal Punishment |
C1 | Flotsam and Jetsam - Der Fuhrer |
C2 | Juggernaut - Slow Death |
C3 | Heretic - Whitechapel |
C4 | Savage Grace - Trial by Fire |
C5 | Sound Barrier - Gladiator |
C6 | Cirith Ungol - Blood and Iron |
D1 | Lizzy Borden - Live and Let Die |
D2 | Cities - Burn Forever |
D3 | Exxplorer - Run for Tomorrow |
D4 | Krank - Rented Heat |
D5 | Deaf Dealer - The Fugitive |
so nice , thanks for sharing!
Thanks for sharing
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Album
1. | Join the Legion | 04:33 |
2. | The Troll | 03:50 |
3. | Fire (Crazy Brown cover) |
03:01 |
4. | Heaven Help Us | 06:24 |
5. | Before the Lash | 04:41 |
6. | Go It Alone | 04:23 |
7. | Chaos Rising | 08:42 |
8. | Fallen Idols | 06:45 |
9. | Paradise Lost | 06:13 |
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An unreleased private tape containing a cover of Atom Smasher performed live in 1991.
It wasn't professionally recorded or manufactured and released. There was no title, cover art or anything like that, sorry! It's just a four track live recording we made at one of our shows back in 1991.-Page Townsley, 20 Mar 2010
Mausoleum broke up in 1993. Guitarist/vocalist Page Townsley went to form his new band Vore two years later.
We don't do any Ungol covers, but that's not to say we may never do any!-Page Townsley, 04 Mar 2010
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1. | Atom Smasher |
2. | I'm Alive |
3. | Black Machine |
4. | Master of the Pit |
5. | King of the Dead |
6. | Death of the Sun |
7. | Finger of Scorn |
8. | Cirith Ungol |
This is a live vinyl bootleg. Contains Cirith Ungol Live at Roxy Club 83. The recordings are probably the same that appears on the new and highly available Return of the Dead Kings-bootleg CD. It is supposedly limited to 10 copies. A copy that was sold on eBay 25 nov 2010 for 47,61 Euro, was supposedly bought in Frankfurt, Germany in 1992. It is reported that the tracklist on the back cover is wrong and that the correct one is:
Side A
Atom Smasher
Black Machine
Death of the Sun
Side B
Master of the Pit
King of the Dead
I'm the winner of this LP
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01 | Finish What You Started |
02 | Shout It Out Loud |
03 | Carry The Torch |
04 | All I wanna Say |
05 | How You're Gonna Live |
06 | I Will Always |
07 | Hard Way |
08 | It's No Secret |
09 | We Will Survive |
10 |
No Way Out |
11 | Say A Prayer |
A movie? um ... it seems a little bit terrifying!
......I.......
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Live EP
A1 | I'm Alive |
B1 | Atom Smasher |
This EP was released after the band broke up. The songs on here are live and were recorded somewhere between 1984 and 91. It was the first release on King Fowley's Old Metal Records.
Fun fact: That means Cirith Ungol has been on the first records on four different labels.
...My own personal passion for the band went as far as releasing a self-financed live 7" single from the band in 1996 (don't brother writing it's long sold out!).-King Fowley, Jan 1999, One Foot In Hell liner notes
It started with a Cirith Ungol live single. I wanted for so long to put it out, so I did! It wasn't 'legit' and I was lucky the band contacted me and was super cool and happy about it!!-King Fowley, Apr 2004
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1. |
Washed in the Blood |
04:48 |
2. | The Chances You Take |
04:03 |
3. | I Had a Dream |
05:35 |
4. | How Lucky We Are |
04:15 |
5. | What's Happening in the World Today |
04:29 |
6. | Sticking With Jesus |
03:56 |
7. | In a Twinkling of an Eye |
07:32 |
8. | My Lord and I |
03:17 |
9. | Brother of the Wheel | 03:55 |
10. | Choose It | 04:11 |
11. | Canaan Land | 05:33 |
12. | Message from John | 02:34 |
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1. | Sacred Metal | 06:16 |
2. | Warbringers | 06:33 |
3. | Helms Deep | 07:17 |
4. | One Eyed God | 04:37 |
5. | Return to Imrryr | 05:06 |
6. | Nadsokor (Cirith Ungol-cover) | 04:50 |
7. | Swords of Doom | 06:34 |
8. | On the March | 06:13 |
I chose a song from that album because I am a great Moorcock appasionate and that was one of the few songs dedicated to the Elric's Saga. You can notice I placed that song after the other songs regarding Elric on our album "Return to Imrryr". I give a great importance to that character for my compositions, since DoomSwod is my way to call the sword Stormbringer, ruler of the Moorcock's multiverse.-Deathmaster (guitarist), Steel Conjuring interview, c.2000
It seems we are very popular in Italy for example, where a really cool band called DOOMSWORD has done a cover of our song "Nadsokor". There is a band in Italy called DOOMSWORD who did a cover of a song of ours, "Nadsokor". I think they are very cool.-Robert Garven, Metal Nightmare interview 2000
The only CU cover I've heard of is "Nadsokor" by the Italian band Doomsword. I conpager it a great tribute to have a CU song covered.-Greg Lindstrom, The Corroseum interview. (This was about five years before the tribute album was released, circa 2001).
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CD 02. Feb 1999
Cirith Ungol: Death of the Sun
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Another unreleased Cirith Ungol song. Probably written/recorded in the 1970's. Greg Lindstrom mentions it in an interview in Blood of the Ancients Magazine.
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??: 2000 (self-released)
1. | Intro |
2. | Raging Storm |
3. | The Devil Speaks |
4. | Black Machine (Cirith Ungol cover) |
5. | Sons Of Valhalla |
Harry Boudamour (bass) Where can I get this record or how can I contact the band? I've tried sending mail to spiroscbr600@yahoo.gr many months ago, but either the mail is not in use, or they just haven't answered. Too bad, because I really like this band. I can't even find it for download. CDandLP /
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George Drimilis (vocals)
Dimitris Delis (lead guitar)
George Vassaras (drums)
Chris Mosalos (guitar)
Recorded at Studio Active, Athens on October 2000.
CIRITH UNGOL is one of my FAVORITE'S GROUPS ever, so it is very normal
we've decided to cover them, and new covers are going to come in the
near future. I like their atmosphere and pure feeling, their lyrics, the
members, everything!!!! Most of their songs are expressing me 100%, I
mean it.
-Harry Boudamour (bass), 18 May 2010
- Dani, 2010-04-11 00:00:00
Compilation album of rare tracks
Demos and out-takes | |
101 | Hype Performance |
102 | Last Laugh |
103 | Frost And Fire |
104 | Eyes |
105 | Better Off Dead |
106 | 100 MPH |
107 | I'm Alive |
108 | Bite Of The Worm |
109 | The Twitch |
110 | Maybe That's Why |
111 | Ill Met In Lankhmar |
112 | Return To Lankhmar |
113 | Darkness Weaves |
114 | Witchdance |
115 | Feeding The Ants |
116 | Obsidian |
Alternative versions | |
201 | Death Of The Sun |
202 | Fire |
203 | Fallen Idols |
Paradise Lost-practice tape session | |
204 | Chaos Rising |
205 | Fallen Idols |
206 | Paradise Lost |
207 | Join The Legion |
208 | Before The Lash |
Live at Airlington Theater, Santa Barbara, California 04 May 1985 | |
209 | Atom Smasher (Live) |
210 | Master Of The Pit (Live) |
211 | King Of The Dead (Live) |
Live at The Country Club, Reseda , California 11 Sep 1984 | |
212 | Last Laugh (Live) |
Live at Airlington Theater, Santa Barbara, California 04 May 1985 | |
213 | Cirith Ungol (Live) |
Demos and out-takes | |
214 | Secret Agent Man |
215 | Ferrari 308QV |
Live at Wolf & Rissmiller's Country Club, November 9, 1984 [only with bonus DVD] | |
301 | I'm Alive |
302 | The Black Machine |
303 | Master of the Pit |
304 | King of the Dead! |
305 | Death of the Sun |
306 | Finger of Scorn |
307 | Frost & Fire |
308 | Cirith Ungol |
Check the Servants of Chaos-page for full info.
Esta e original muito foda !!!
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Many thks 4 this material !!! TNKS !!! from MExico City !!!
Static Laughter War, Death & Beer !!! MANY THNKS !!!
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Soundtrack album
CD: 2001 (Game Two Records)
Cirith Ungol was supposed to appear on the soundtrack. For some unknown reasons, they do not appear on the album. Tracklist below so you can doublecheck.We will be on the soundtrack to the horror movie "I Am Vengeance", on Game Two Records, coming in 2002.-Greg Lindstrom, The Corroseum interview
It's true that Game Two was supposed to release Volume II of the IAV soundtrack, but it never happened. It was due to some difficulties I had with a partner in Game Two at the time named Mike Knecht. Mike received all the master recordings for the release but never finished compiling the album. He eventually dropped out of the scene. It sucks for me because I paid MeteorCity royalties to do the release but I was never able to take advantage of selling it.-Conan, Game Two Records, 11 Mar 2010
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1. | Burn in Hell! | 08:52 |
2. | In the Rectory | 13:10 |
3. | The Hour of Death | 11:48 |
4. | Sodoma Sunrise | 13:29 |
5. | Doomsower | 05:37 |
6. | Cirith Ungol | 21:10 |
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Also available on the One Foot In Fire-tribute album. More info here.
i want to know the meaning of this picture!
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Demo
1. Shelob's Lair (Lindstrom) *
2. Downer (Grayson)
3. The Crying of Lot 246 (Grayson)
4. On the Slab (Grayson)
Basic Tracks Recorded Live on March 30, 2003 at Sound Arena Studios in Reseda,
CA
Guitar Solos & Vocals Recorded in early April 2003
Not Very Produced by Perry Grayson & Falcon
Engineered & Mixed
by Perry Grayson
Perry Grayson - Guitar / Vocals
Greg Lindstrom - Bass / Keyboard / Lead Guitar on *
Darin McCloskey - Drums
We did the demo both for ourselves to progress as a band and to get the word out that we existed. Sent tons of copies around to mags and webzines worldwide. I think we got like one or two reviews, that weren’t 100% positive. Other than that, the response was awesome, which is something I never expected and was really glad about!”
-Perry Grayson, Headache interview, 2005
I was a bit surprised by the response. The demo was more or less a rush job, and as Perry explains was more or less simply to let people know that the three of us had gotten together to jam and this is stuff we're going to be doing in the future. I think a large part of the postive response came from those die-hard CIRITH UNGOL fans, who were hungry for something new to sink their teeth into. Whether this material be in the form of CIRITH UNGOL or FALCON was really pretty inconsequential, as long as Greg Lindstrom was involved people were already psyched. The old CIRITH UNGOL diehards were and are the main fanbase for FALCON, I think. It's really cool that FALCON has attracted the interest of fans outpage the CIRITH UNGOL fanbase, too and I think it's what we had all hoped for.-Darin McCloskey, Headache interview, 2005
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Demo with a Cirith Ungol cover
Also available on the One Foot In Fire-tribute album.
Demo, private print. Originally released in 2002. Re-released with Cirith Ungol-cover as additional track in 2003. It's out of print! Click here for more info about the cover.CDandLP / CD Universe / eBay / NoRemorse / Sonic Age Records
1. | Behind the Eyes of Partha MacOthna | 03:40 |
2. | The Justice of Roma | 06:57 |
3. | Bran Mak Morn | 05:11 |
4. | A Wizard in My Dreams | 02:14 |
5. | Escape from Eboracum | 06:52 |
6. | The Dagon's Moore | 04:58 |
7. | Gates to Abominium | 04:25 |
8. | The Black Stone | 05:36 |
9. | Traian's Tower Falls | 02:38 |
10. | Worms of the Earth | 04:27 |
11. | The Witch | 05:08 |
12. | Requiem for Titus Silla | 03:44 |
13. | Join the Legion (Cirith Ungol cover) |
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1. | Downer | 04:25 |
2. | Castle Peak | 07:02 |
3. | On The Slab | 05:07 |
4. | The Crying Of Lot 246 | 03:46 |
5. | Throwback | 04:35 |
6. | Redman (Bang cover) | 04:47 |
7. | High Speed Love | 03:33 |
8. | Route 666 | 03:34 |
9. | Shelob`s Lair | 04:53 |
10. | Half Past Human | 06:47 |
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Awful quality on this video!
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1. | Cimmerian Steel | 05:27 |
2. | Sacred Vengeance | 04:04 |
3. | Under The Black Stars | 04:13 |
4. | Far From The Light | 04:19 |
5. | Legions Of The Underworld | 05:56 |
6. | Black Machine (Cirith Ungol cover) | 02:45 |
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1. | Hache De Guerre | 04:07 |
2. | Mystification (Manilla Road-cover) | 05:28 |
3. | What Does It Take (Cirith Ungol-cover) | 03:17 |
4. | Dreamtime | 03:35 |
5. | Mephisto (Live) | 05:35 |
6. | Bloodbath (Live) | 04:36 |
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Tribute album
01 | Rotten (Holland) - "Cirith Ungol Overture" |
02 | Falcon (USA) - "Shelob's Lair (remix)" |
03 | Solemnity (Germany) - "What Does It Take" |
04 | Holy Martyr (Italy) - "Frost And Fire" |
05 | Dawn Of Winter (Germany) - "Doomed Planet" |
06 | Assedium (Italy) - "Black Machine" |
07 | Emerald (Switzerland) - "Heaven Help Us" |
08 | Monstrum (Poland) - "Fallen Idols" |
09 | Rosae Crucis (Italy) - "Death Of The Sun" |
10 | Battle Ram (Italy) - "Join The Legion" (CD bonus) |
11 | Crystal Viper (Poland) & Elixir (UK) - "Chaos Rising" |
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Compilation of rare tracks with a Cirith Ungol cover
1. | Intro ('88) | 01:08 |
2. | XXX ('88) (Nasty Savage cover) | 05:09 |
3. | Better Off Dead ('88) (Cirith Ungol cover) | 00:52 |
4. | Angel Witch ('88) (Angel Witch cover) | 03:41 |
5. | Hiding Mask ('88) (The Obsessed cover) | 03:46 |
6. | Death Or Glory ('88) (Holocaust cover) | 03:20 |
7. | Little Faith ('88) | 05:13 |
8. | Blessed Realm ('88) | 03:15 |
9. | Infinite Nothingness ('88) | 04:15 |
10. | Long After Midnight ('88) | 05:25 |
11. | Spectre ('91) | 07:04 |
12. | The Unbearable Vision ('91) | 06:19 |
13. | Frustrations ('91) | 04:08 |
14. | Song 1 ('91) | 06:11 |
15. | Antique ('91) | 02:36 |
16. | Song 2 ('91) | 00:50 |
17. | Seascape ('91) | 05:02 |
18. | Song 3 ('91) | 03:14 |
19. | 4-part Song ('91) | 03:19 |
20. | Song 4 ('91) | 01:12 |
21. | Song 5 ('91) | 02:03 |
This song exists only as a fragment. Perhaps I taped over the original and it is lost forever. Or perhaps a complete version is on another tape, still missing. I remember recording three Cirith Ungol songs: "Better Off Dead," "I'm Alive," and "Edge of a Knife." Only this fragment remains so far. Also missing are versions of Manilla Road's "Crystal Logic" and Nigro Mantia's "Death Romance" and "Monolith of Infinity."-linernotes from their website
I recorded that song many, many years ago on a 4-track cassette recorder.-John Brenner, 22 Mar 2010
I've been a fan of Cirith Ungol since "King of the Dead" was released. They were and still are one of my favorite heavy metal bands. Though I never knew any of the members personally, I wrote to the band once, back then, and they sent me a photo and stickers. Why "Better Off Dead"? I don't really know. It's a great song, and I think I really saw myself in the lyrics, especially many of the lyrics on the "Frost and Fire" record. It was also fun to play that bass riff!
"Paleontology" is an Internet-only release. The music is from old cassettes that I found, and I wanted to share the music with everyone. I used to record many covers back then, for fun. Maybe one day I will find the tapes with the other two Cirith Ungol songs.
The lost two Ungol songs, Edge of a Knife and I'm Alive, and the full Better Off Dead, have finally surfaced!
These next songs are all from a tape Steve recently found in storage. It's not the same tape as with the songs above, although the mixes may be the same in some cases. I believe this tape is a copy of a lost master. The multi-track tapes are long gone!-liner notes
I played bass guitar, guitar, and programmed the drum machine for these cover songs. I remember the Roland 505 being a real bear to program, and it took me hours and hours to get the drums even close. To this day, Cirith Ungol's "Frost and Fire" is one of my favorite records. I wonder what they would have done had they continued in this direction.
I wanted to record the vocals, and I remember trying...but then I thought, "How the hell am I going to do this? I can't even fake it! Who can sing like Tim?" So I left the songs without vocals. I also recorded "Maybe That's Why," but that tape was eaten in an '82 Chevette's cassette deck long ago.-comment 08 oct 2011
nice post , thanks for sharing!
dificil de encontrar
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1. | The Lamp of Thoth | 04:42 | |
2. | Sunshine | 04:11 | |
3. | Frost and Fire (Cirith Ungol cover) | 06:24 | |
4. | Blood on Satan's Claw (live) |
03:33 | |
5. | Into the Lair of the Gorgon (live) | 05:49 |
I picked that song because it is my favourite Cirith Ungol track. They are one of my all-time favourite metal bands. They just have a colour and originality to their music, which is beyond most metal bands. There was no argument in covering it – true metal is true metal wherever it hails from! I think also the lyrics just sum up what it is to be alive: somewhere between the frost of the rigid ideal and the fire of the tumultuous passion!-The Overtly Melancholic Lord Strange (Simon, vocalist), 15 Jan 2008
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Album
1. | Jimmy Clark |
2. | Elfland's Daughter |
3. | Corporate Whore |
4. | The Wreck Of The John Deere |
5. | Falcon |
6. | No Future |
7. | Careless |
8. | Everything There Is To Know |
9. | Show You All |
10. | Leader (Buffalo cover) |
Excellent album! Excellent band! Perry, Greg and Darrin have created a hard rock classic for the ages. Perry is a well seasoned pro guitarist that pulls off more hooks than a deep sea fishing boat. The elements of Cirith Ungol are present along with the Thin Lizzy and Mountain influences. Great stuff, give it a listen. The double leads in Elfland's Daughter is worth the cost of the disc alone! Possibly the most thoughtful lyrics since early Blue Oyster Cult who I always considered the thinking man's metal band. Greg Lindstrom, the master on the bass, so good it's scary. Check out the first Falcon album as well, it's also a 9 out of 10.
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Bootleg compilation album
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A bootleg "best of" compilation with great custom artwork. Both the songs and the artwork is available for download at Baistophe Music. The idea behind it is to download it, burn it, print the cover, and there you have a pretty bootleg. As a fan you probably already have all the songs on it, but it's remains a nice addition nevertheless. Click the covers to magnify. |
Information about Baistophe Music, taken
from their website:
What is 'BAISTOPHE'? BAISTOPHE is a collection of home-made compilations as those available in store are, most of the times, unsatisfying. We make our own artworks (front & back) so that everything can be burnt, printed and look nice in your CDs collection. Also, we are always looking for new people to help us achieve a quasi-encyclopedic collection. If you think you can help, feel free to contact us. And don't forget to leave a comment, it's always gratifying to see our hard work pleases people! NB: It goes without saying that these compilations are meant to be introductions to artists we enjoy. If you like what you hear, BUY THE ALBUMS! NOTE: Artists and labels who do not wish their music to be available on Baistophe can ask us to remove it. Please contact: baistophe{at}gmail{dot}com |
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Live At Roxy Club 1983 | |
01 | Atom Smasher |
02 | I'm Alive |
03 | Black Machine |
04 | Master of the Pit |
05 | King of the Dead |
06 | Death of the Sun |
07 | Finger of Scorn |
08 | Cirith Ungol |
Live In Santa Barbara | |
09 | Atom Smasher |
10 | Master of the Pit |
11 | King of the Dead |
12 | Last Laugh |
13 | Cirith Ungol |
I finally got hold of this bootleg. It's being sold on eBay once in a while, so it should be available to anyone who wants it. It will probably be a little overpriced though. Anything between $25-65 could be expected. There's no need to pay more than that, as it most probably will be listed again soon enough! The CD consists of two parts; Live at Roxy Club 1983 (track 1-7) and Live in Santa Barbara (track 8-12). The cover artwork of Elric is great of course, the booklet is quite good too. It has words by Rob and Greg, and a lot of pics inside.
The real attraction here is the first part, Live at Roxy Club 1983, where most of the King of the Dead album is played. Three of the songs has never officially been released live before, that is Black Machine, Death of the Sun and Finger of Scorn. The soundquality is unfortunately not great. The highlight for me here is Finger of Scorn, which is presented in a quite different version from the album version. The accoustic intro and interlude is different, and Tim doesn't "scream" as much, but sings in a much softer style, which serves this semi-ballad well.
The songs of the second part, Live In Santa Barbara, have already officially been released on Servants of Chaos in 2001. They were recorded 1984/85. The sound quality here is very good.
Please guys do NOT support bootlegers,those are lost money gone to some wise guy that released this!
I have this live recordings in my possession for many years but never thought to make a cover with Elric and release a bootleg cd!
If the band wanted it, they would have done so and make a profit out of it!
Having these songs in your p.c is one thing and release them as a bootleg cd is another.
Please stop buing bottlegs!
With all do respect
Ioannis
Thanks for the tip, Marcus.
I know that many people with good reasons are against bootlegs and I fully respect their views. Personally I have been buying bootlegs the last 15 years or so, mostly bootlegs with rare tracks. Bootlegs are often the only way to get the stuff - at least 15 years ago. CU them self doesn't seem to have very much against bootlegs either. See Rob's words in the Diabolical Conquest interview, + Tim shared a link where one could download a CU bootleg.
There are different types of bootlegs.
Counterfeits are good replacements when the original record is impossible to find without being Sherlock Holmes and Bill Gates at the same time. I prefer having a bootleg of the CD/LP than not having it at all, or just on mp3.
Bootlegs with unreleased live recordings or songs are very interesting for me if I already have all what has been officially released. I may be wrong, but I don't know if it's true that if the band would like to release their live recordings officially, they would just do it. CU has wanted to release a live album since 1986. (see the Suck City interview). It much depends on the record companies. I also don't think that a crappy bootleg would stop the fans from buying an awesome official live album with superb quality.
Just my opinion...
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1. | Preparing for Battle | 01:51 |
2. | Hymn to Steel | 06:04 |
3. | Revenge | 04:57 |
4. | Empire of Lies | 05:44 |
5. | My Way | 05:03 |
6. | Blind Mass | 05:41 |
7. | Will You Ever Return | 05:03 |
8. | Bastardo | 04:28 |
9. | We Shall Rise | 05:25 |
10. | Bard of the King | 05:47 |
11. | After the Battle | 01:56 |
12. | Warlord's Wrath (Black Knight Cover) | |
13. | Dr. Phibes/Dreamworld (Angel Witch Cover) | |
14. | Heaven Help Us (Cirith Ungol Cover) | |
15. | Rebels of our Time (live) | |
16. | Battlefield (live) |
Also available on the One Foot In Fire-tribute album.
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1. | Into the Bowels of Hell | 01:09 |
2. | Castle of the Tyrant | 04:40 |
3. | Summoning the Apocalypse | 03:52 |
4. | Warhead | 03:53 |
5. | Black Riders | 05:13 |
6. | Ninth Gate | 01:26 |
7. | Under the Pagan Hammer | 04:57 |
8. | Blasphemer’s Eulogy | 04:17 |
9. | To Walk the Infernal Fields | 08:07 |
10. | Phantom Sun | 04:54 |
11. | Twelve Disciples For the Antichrist | 05:32 |
12. | Save Us | 01:04 |
13. | Annointed in Flames | 04:30 |
14. | Red Moon, Black Magic | 04:01 |
15. | Oldschool War | 03:03 |
16. | Return to the Castle | 05:42 |
17. | Atomsmasher (Cirith Ungol cover) |
04:42 |
In 2003 before signing to Barbarian Wrath for my debut album "The Halo of Burning Wings", Black Goat, the label owner approached me and wondered if I was interested in participating on a Cirith Ungol tribute album mostly made out by bands on the label as far as I know. Being a fan of Cirith Ungol and in particular King of the Dead which was an album that I had begun listening quite a bit to in the year or two before I started Faustcoven, I did not hesitate to take him up on the offer. I was trying to find a song that would translate well into my style, and while King of the Dead, Black Machine or Master of the Pit were obvious doomy candidates, the choice fell on Atomsmasher in the end. Having a more straight forward structure than the others, and a raw charm and energy that I felt I could work with, it was a good choice in retrospect. Then, never having released anything official at that time I wanted to make a rehearsal to see how it worked out, and improve on it for the final release. It turned out quite well I thought, although I wanted to get a bit more work done on the solo guitars and the drum programming. One interesting thing I did, which I guess is unusual for cover songs, was to combine two of the original riffs and slow them down, to make a new doomy midsection, intended as a sort of funeral march in honor of Cirith Ungol, and being based on Cirith Ungol riffs it is a pretty cool section. However the tribute release never happened, so I continued to focus on my own music, and put this recording into a shelf until the demo anthology was released in 2009, where I thought it would make a good bonus track. It's rough around the edges and not something which I could honestly call a worthy tribute for the godly Cirith Ungol, but it has its charm and deserved to be heard as a part of the early Faustcoven history.-Gunnar Hansen (vocalist, guitarist), 25 Feb 2010
So where is this tribute album (not be confused with One Foot In Fire, which was released on Solemnity Music in 2006) Gunnar talked about? What happened to the project? Was any of the other recordings ever released or even recorded? I contacted Barbarian Wrath to get more information about this unreleased Cirith Ungol tribute album. Here is what he had to say about the project: there were a few other songs "taken" by bands but FAUSTCOVEN, to my best knowledge anyways were the only ones to actually record a cover. Like many good ideas is just faded away with time.-Barbarian Wrath, 01 Mar 2010
goood job! especially the Summoning the Apocalypse!!
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01 | Salome - blueprint (Fugazi) |
02 | The Austrasian Goat - Mask (Bauhaus) |
03 | Atavist - Mindless (Infest) |
04 | Coffins - Ebony tears (Cathedral) |
05 | Monarch - A look at tomorrow (Discharge) |
06 | La Cuenta - It's in my Blood ! (Bl'ast) |
07 | Fistula - Dead in a ditch ( D.R.I) |
08 | HC Minds - Black Machine (Cirith Ungol) |
Available at Blind Date Records.
A short interview with guitarist/vocalist Isamu Sato of H.C. Minds:
wooow!useful information!
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Bootleg live album
Live At Country Club, Resada 14 Oct 1983 | |
01 | Atom Smasher (4:50)/td> |
02 | Black Machine (4:24) |
03 | Bastard (7:32) |
04 | King of the Dead (7:19) |
05 | Death of the Sun (3:58) |
06 | I'm Alive (5:27) |
07 | Cirith Ungol (7:11) |
"A simply fantastic item containing a über rare recording with the band from the Country Club, Resada 14/10/1983, which according to(Thanks to Marcus from Sweden.)
many was at their absolute musical peak! Sound quality is enjoyable and the tracklist is simply fantastic! The recording is from the gap between Frost & Fire and King Of The Dead, so the band plays some of their most treasured songs from their earliest era. The set is just fantastic and Tims vocals are nothing but killer! This one is a absolute must for Cirith Ungol fans or anyone into early US heavy metal!"
I just got this from eBay. It is a bootleg album recorded live at the Country Club, Resada, 14 Oct 1983. The sound quality is decent and there's a pause of silence between each track. The booklet has some liner notes written by The Battle Axe Team. It is stated that it is a "Fan produced bootlegg recording 1983". The CD is as expected a CD-R, like all other bootlegs by Battle Axe. Fans who read the tracklist will get excited to find out about a song listed as "Bastard". This song is sadly just Master of the Pit. I don't know why they chose to call it Bastard, either it was actually called Bastard before it was renamed to Master of the Pit on the album, or they called it to draw attention and sell more CD's. Either way it really sounds like Tim could be saying "this song is called... Bastard" at the beginning of the song, but I'm unable to hear it properly. This CD is not a must, but a nice item for die-hard fans. Best version after one spin: I'm Alive.
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Mini LP with a Cirith Ungol cover
Tracklist
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12" LP; ? [x100]
"1983 LIVE Arlington Theatre in California".
The band members need to jump on this ASAP. Even if it's something like a fan funded official live release. They must have some soundboards tapes that would be worth releasing themselves for the fans, that way they beat the bootleggers at their own game. I know I would be glad to pay between $15.00 & $25.00 for an official bootleggs series from the band themselves. Many bands have gone the route of asking the fans to pay up front to cover the production of the Cd's themselves. Just a thought. I'd love to have copies of these boots but I will not pay some dirt bag making money off of a band that could use the money for THEIR art. Oh yeah and limited to 100 copies my ass! How many editions of 100 copies will they end up pressing in the long run? The band members are the only ones who have the right to sell their recordings. Bootlegs should be traded for free or not at all!!!!!
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Raw audience recording from the masters of doom and gloom - limited to only 100 handnumbered copies on yellow vinyl!
Tracklist:
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CD: 25 Jul 2011 (Blood And Iron Records; Iron 009)
Falcon: Leader (remixed version)
Tracklist:
BLOOD OF THE SUN "Sunrise" / DOOMRAISER "Dune Messiah"
/ MOS GENERATOR "Stay with me" / OGRE "The Prophet" / AMON RA "Freedom"
/ FALCON "Leader" / GLOW "Till my Death" / ADMIRAL SIR CLOUDESLEY
SHOVELL "Bean Stew" / IRON HEARSE "Suzie Sunshine" / JOSIAH "Dead
Forever" / DAWNRIDER "Shylock".
What was a frozen plan that lasted at least two years, comes out now finally! Aborted by many reasons and put to rest through a long hiatus, it's now time to present the much deserved Buffalo tribute with 12 great international Heavy Rock/Doom acts from the U.S. to Portugal and Spain, with Germany, UK and Italy in between. These are mostly unreleased songs presented on CD, to celebrate the greatness (and heaviness) of Australia's premier Doom Rock & Rollers! Approved by Mr. Dave Tice himself (who left some nice comments in a few versions he'd heard), with 16 page booklet and sleeve art done by Rod Wolf from Midnight Priest, this is a release not to be missed for all who give a damn to 70's Heavy Rock! Clearly Blood & Iron is doing it. Many didn't believed and some also forgot, but good news on the horizon: The job is done!
This record has been delayed for several years! It was recently scheduled for 01 Jun 2011, but upon contacting the label, I was told it will be not be out before 25 Jul 2011. I won't believe it until I see it.
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100 M.P.H. is as uplifting as the title proclaims though the chorus is a bit silly, and overall the song seems like the band's attempting speed metal which is not their forte!-King Fowley, liner notes, Jan 1999
Lyrics
Call it heavy metal comes on hard and fastWritten by Greg Lindstrom
We're the men who play it we're here to kick your ass
Chorus:
Coming like a hurricane a hundred miles an hour
We don't stop for nothing cause we've got the power
Our nerves are made of steel and there's ice in our veins
We're frost and we're fire we're pleasure and we're pain
Chorus
Call it heavy metal comes on hard and fast
We're the men who play it we're here to kick your ass
No doubt my least favourite of this album. Still a good song though.
The most commercial song on this album but I think it's well placed between lots of heavy stuff. It's a solid fast rockin tune and I like it a lot.
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(Sept 80) I think this version has got more energy than the one on 'One Foot In Hell', but maybe I'm biased ...-Greg Lindstrom, linernotes
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Lyrics
Lying awake in the dead of night
Listening to my heart beat away
Wishing I wasn't alone here tonight
But wishing just gets in the way
I just want, I just want a little fire [2x]
The night's so cold when you're all alone
At least it's always been cold to me
And the clock ticks away, ticks away, ticks away
And the clock settles in around me
I just want, I just want a little fire [2x]
Fire
You might be wondering just how it feels
Well I hope you never know
'Cause I know exactly how it feels
It's all I ever know
I just want, I just want a litte fire [4x]
Fire, fire
Written by Greg Lindstrom
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Californian cult metal legends CIRITH UNGOL will release their new live album, "A Little Fire - Live" in December 2010 via Liquid Flame Records. The first live album ever by these metal veterans, will have the classic line-up from Frost and Fire, that is Baker, Lindstrom, Fogle, Flint and Garven. All tracks were recorded between 1979 and '82. As a bonus, it will have two additional, previously unreleased tracks taken from the recording sessions for the unfinished, fifth album. The cover artwork was created by Michael Whelan for the Elric novels.That will make a great christmas present!
Don't hold your breathe, this was of course just a 1st April joke!
it seems very coool!
I just want, I just want a little fire!
if this is not a 1st of April joke, it is the best news since the invention of the delay effect
Good God, here is my cash. Take it, take it quick.
Greatest musical news I have heard in the last decade--right up there with Maiden and Priest reforming with their greates singers. Hail to the Master's of the Pit!
Well said Mark. This was of course just a 1st of April hoax
If this WAS an April fools joke, I am going to slam my head into a wall and castrate myself with a #2 pencil...
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I wish Rob Garven and Tim Baker would play again, but the sad reality is it's probably never going to happen. I kept trying to tell people that the longer they waited to book Falcon in Europe, the lesser the chance that even Greg Lindstrom could make it. I don't think many listened. Jürgen from Hellion/HOA was the only one to step up to the plate and offer to put Falcon on a festival. Provided he fulfills his end of the bargain, we're meant to do HOA 2010. A Falcon set at the warm-up gig and mostly Cirith Ungol classics at HOA itself. But, make no mistakes, the lineup is Falcon. As in Perry Grayson, Greg Lindstrom and Darin McCloskey. If Jürgen wants to advertise it as "Greg Lindstrom & Friends" that's fine by me/us. It's his festival.-Perry Grayson, 05 Aug 2009
Nothing's confirmed until the flights are booked and paid for. Don't count your chickens before they hatch. Nothing's confirmed until you hear it straight from the horse's mouth. This is meant to be exclusive to HOA, so it's entirely dependent on Jürgen and company following through with their offer. We don't play for free, and there are a lot of expenses involved. As we'll be playing CU material, we will have to rehearse more than usual. Which is complicated because we all live in different places.
While I'm sure even Greg would rather it be only Falcon material, this is the only offer that's come up. We know Falcon is perfectly capable of standing on its own. But many of these European festivals are reunion and tribute crazy. They're unwilling to merely book the current band of a cult metal hero like Greg Lindstrom. Given the opportunity, we do with a power trio what most bands need five members to accomplish. The proof is in the pudding. Three dudes who don't need to prove themselves at this stage! Look at our bloody histories, damn it!!
It has come to our attention that the Headbanger's Open Air Festival has been advertising a confirmed appearance by "Greg Lindstrom and Friends" on their 2010 bill and Falcon on the HOA Warm-Up gig. This is not true. While the HOA fest did contact us and discuss the possibility of Falcon (Greg Lindstrom, Perry Grayson and Darin McCloskey) playing a set of Cirith Ungol classics at the fest itself and a full Falcon set at the Warm-Up gig, no contracts were ever signed and no flights were booked. No offense to the HOA organizers, but these arrangements were never confirmed. HOA tickets were, however, sold under the pretense that "Greg Lindstrom and Friends" would be performing. In the music business agreements are made in writing via contracts. Until the paper is signed by both parties nothing is confirmed. I am always on top of posting news on our various sites and making press releases. If any gig or event is ever confirmed the news gets posted quickly. You'll all notice that there was never an announcement made by me or any of the other Falcon members regarding HOA 2010. That is because there was no confirmation. It is best not to count your chickens before they hatch. Read: "don't get ahead of yourselves." We regret that Cirith Ungol and Falcon fans were in any way misled, but that is out of our control. Thanks for understanding!-Perry (on behalf of Greg Lindstrom and Darin McCloskey), 21 Jan 2010
Best Heavy Rawkin' Wishes for 2010 and Beyond
can't say that I was opposed to the release of 'servants' just was never contacted before it came out if my memory is correct..as far as vocals go i still play rock band with the kids..ha..ha Tim B.
Any kind of new music by these guys would be welcome by me. I rather dislike the metal without melody that's been passed around since 1990. I'm old school but probably younger than old Sabbath or BOC fans.
Cirith Ungol is my all time favorite band and I'm not just saying that because I love Moorcock. The creativity and originality of their work is second to none in my opinion.
Kevin Gibbs
Well, the closest option I have to seeing them live is to make small figurines of Cirith Ungol playing on a small stage, blast their music loudly and do some peyote.
I would give all the money I have to see CU unite and play live here in Omaha. Been a fan for years and I've had my two Cirith Ungol pins on my patch jacket ever since Greg sent them to me with the shirt I ordered. Best band ever, inspired by all the books I grew up on.
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A lucky fan had the opportunity to have a day with some of the remaining members of Cirith Ungol last sunday. This event was of course photo documented.
From left to right: Matt, Tim, Callae, Rob and Jim. Click on the picture to zoom!
We are all in garvens front yard on Sunday, oct 10. They were basically signing my vinyl and shooting the shit. I guess the 3 of them haven't hung out together in 19 years! Wow!
Thanks to Callae Goltz for wanting to share these photos!
Want to see more? Click here for more photos from the event.
Pretty cool.
Thanks for sharing - haven't seen Tim in years - He looks great!!!
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Origin: Italy
Formed in: 2004
Cirith Ungol, long ago, showed me the way of music I love: to tribute them is a duty and honour, and Black Machine is the song that suits my guitar playing the best. Besides, everyone today is riding the black machine of decadence...
-Guido, linernotes
One of the songs that synthesizers better the essence of Cirith Ungol's style. A place of psych-epic history.
-Marco, linernotes
Women look like the Black Machine ....fill your head with evil dreams...
-Daniele, linernotes
My only complaint is that we were too young by the time we recorded this version. The whole demo was recorded in less than 20 hours, the sound sucks pretty bad, and I personally think I was not skilled enough when doin' that. But it's still awesome to be part of the first CU tribute ever made!
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This was written already in the 70's.
"Atom Smasher" gets the ball rolling with sheer power, only ever letting up for guitarist Jerry Fogle to introduce yet another dark musical passage into the "smasher's" world.-King Fowley, liner notes
Lyrics
Welcome to the brave new world
The Future's here, or haven't you heard?
The sons of man have fell from grace
Till the Smasher comes to save his race
Here it comes, there it goes
Just a flash in the sky
Atom smasher, here he comes
Better run for your lives
He is the hero of the atom age
Born in a test tube raised in a cage
A reaver King his throne defiled
Roaming the streets to the call of the wild
As upstarts strive to rule the world
Against them Chaos legions hurled
The Smashers force has swept the land
Again begins the Dawn of Man
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Four of these next tracks were from a show at the Arlington Theater in Santa Barbara, California (04-05-85) about 30 minutes from Ventura where we all lived. We opened up for the Japanese band Loudness. These were never meant to be reproduced, and were made straight off the board onto cassette. I think they came out great. Jerry is gone now, but he was one of the greatest guitarists who ever lived. Long Live Jerry Fogle!-Robert Garven, linernotes
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A band with Vern Green. More info needed!
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this is a humble, raw yet heartfelt tribute to my favorite band.
It's an instrumental medley of many great Ungol songs. All instruments played & recorded by me. All credit goes of course to Cirith Ungol, the real masters of dark, epic and magic heavy metal.
Dedicated to the memory of Jerry Fogle, one of the greatest guitarists ever lived. LONG LIVE THE TOWER OF FIRE.
THIS IS AWESOME!
FUCK YEAH!
I almost forgot myself and thought i was listening to Jerry sometimes there...!
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Cirith Ungol
by Jym Harris
1. So Greg, let's start at the beginning. Cirith Ungol was formed in the 70's but didn't get signed until the early 80's, right? What do you remember about the early days?
GREG: Rob Garven and I first met in English class in 7th grade in 1969, and we found we had common interests in Ferraris and The Lord Of The Rings. A couple of years later in 1971, another guy in our school named Pat Galligan (later a member of the punk band The Angry Samoans) wanted to form a band called Titanic with Jerry Fogle to mostly play Beatles’ songs. For some reason they got Rob in to play drums (even though he didn’t have any drums and didn't know how to play), and Rob called me because I had an amplifier. In the very beginning, there were three of us playing guitar through one amplifier and Rob with just a snare drum and hi hat! Well, I’ve never been a big Beatles fan, so I was pushing us to play heavier stuff like Cream and Grand Funk. Pat wasn’t into that, so Jerry, Rob and I quit Titanic in 1972 and formed Cirith Ungol. Almost immediately we started doing some originals (Radiation Blues, Flesh Dart) along with our versions of songs by Sabbath, Budgie, Spontaneous Combustion, etc. Mountain was really a big early influence on all of us, in the way they would do extended jams. It wasn't until 1975 that Neil Beattie (aka Terry Dactyl) became our lead singer. He was a little more glam inspired than the rest of us, but he put on a really wild live show, with black widow spider fingertip extensions to go along with our six foot wide black widow spider for "Shelob's Lair". Even though he was a great performer, Neil’s voice didn’t quite fit in with our vision, and we parted ways after about a year. We spent the next couple of years writing a lot of songs and playing all the LA clubs as an instrumental power trio, playing with bands like Quiet Riot (w/Randy Rhoades), Y & T, and Van Halen, and going over amazingly well. We tried out a number of singers, but nobody clicked until 1979, when Tim Baker, who was our head roadie at the time, tried singing lead on "Hype Performance". That version is the first song on "Servants Of Chaos".
2. Was there any discussion about the subject matter; what the identity of the band would represent?
GREG: I remember some other possible band names we were considering: Minas Tirith, Khazad Dum, and Uruk Hai, all names from "The Lord Of The Rings". Rob and I both liked J.R.R. Tolkien and Enzo Ferrari, so we knew our songs would cover both those subjects!
3. What about inspiration & influences? After what bands did Cirith Ungol pattern itself?
GREG: Cream was our biggest influence when we were starting out, but all the great early seventies bands were inspirations: of course, the "big three" Black Sabbth, Deep Purple, and Uriah Heep, but also Blue Cheer, Budgie, Hard Stuff, Stray, Trapeze, Highway Robbery, Head Over Heels, Bang, Dust, Sir Lord Baltimore, Cactus, Bloodrock, etc. We used to make the 50 mile trek from Ventura to L.A. every couple of weeks to go to a store called Moby Disc to find the latest imports. Dana Madore, the import manager there, would always have some new heavy rock discovery to show us. Rob and I almost came to blows on several occasions over who was gonna be first to take it home! I'm old enough to have seen a lot of cool bands in their prime. Some of my most vivid memories are of Iggy and The Stooges at the Whiskey in 1973, Rush and Moxy on their first West Coast tour in front of 50 people at the Whiskey in '75, Stray Dog and Masters Of The Airwaves at the Starwood in '74. My first "real" concert was Captain Beyond, Gentle Giant, and Black Sabbath at the Hollywood Bowl in 1972. Gentle Giant got booed off stage after two songs, Geezer Butler's bass notes were like a punch in the stomach, and tragically, I remember almost nothing about my favorite band Captain Beyond.
4. What's up with the band's connection to the Michael Moorcock novels? Whose Idea was that?
GREG: I was a pretty voracious reader of fantasy and science fiction and along with "The Dying Earth" by Jack Vance and the "Fafhrd And The Grey Mouser" series by Fritz Leiber, Moorcock's Elric series is one of my favorites. Along with Clark Ashton Smith, they were all big influences on my lyrics. The obvious connection is the series of amazing covers that Michael Whelan did for the DAW paperback series of Elric novels in the seventies. Rob got in contact with Michael and he graciously agreed to allow us to use his artwork for a very nominal fee. I know the covers helped to sell the albums. In fact, I know several people who didn't really like our music but bought the LPs anyway because of the cover art!
5. Playing Metal in Southern California, how important was the band image? Did you guys ever consider conforming to the 'fashion rock' ?
GREG: If you would have seen Cirith Ungol live in 1979 - 80 there is a very likely chance that would have seen Tim Baker and myself wearing skinny ties! In CU we always thought that a band should dress up a little more than jeans and t-shirts but we stopped short at wearing makeup and fishnet stockings. Now in Falcon I pretty much wear jeans and t-shirts.
6. After the debut "Frost & Fire", what point did you actually leave the band and for what reasons?
GREG: I left in late 1982, because I felt I had reached a turning point in my life after graduating college, getting a “real” job in aerospace engineering, and spending 11 years in the band. It was more than a year after F & F had been released, and album sales were good, but I was somewhat disheartened by the number of negative reviews we were getting. We were still playing mostly clubs, and our career wasn’t advancing as quickly as I had hoped. I guess I wanted to lead a “normal” life for a change.
7. Did you stick around as songwriter for "King Of the Dead" or did the band just use your lyrics?
GREG: "Atom Smasher", "Cirith Ungol", and "Death Of The Sun" were all songs we had written together in the mid 70's, and "Finger Of Scorn" was one of my songs that the band used with my blessing.
8. What were you up to between Cirith Ungol & Falcon?
GREG: I concentrated on my career as an aerospace engineer, raced bikes, and got married, but I never stopped playing guitar or writing songs. Every once in a while over the years I would play some crazy solo guitar stuff at parties or play karaoke style along to my favourite tunes, but I guess I first started to get the itch again a few years ago when Rob Garven and I went through all our old CU tapes to compile the SERVANTS OF CHAOS CD. I began to realize we had written a lot of pretty cool songs back in the mid to late 70’s that never saw the light of day and I figured they needed to be heard again, at least by me! I’m just lucky to find such sympathetic musical partners in Perry, Darin, and Andrew.
9. What ever happened to the other band members? Do you guys keep in touch?
GREG: I'm still good friends with Rob and see him quite often. We're still trying to get him to sit in drums sometime with Falcon, although he hasn't touched a drumstick in ten years. Of course, Jerry died in 1998 of liver failure. Such a loss af a great talent. Flint lives in Las Vegas and works as a sound engineer at one of the major casinos, and last I heard, Tim was in Lake Tahoe. Tim and Flint have really shown no interest in CU at all. Tim's son Matt is much more into CU history than his dad is.
10. I got a double CD set of early material a while back called "Servants Of Chaos". How did that come about?
GREG: Fans had been asking for years about unreleased live and studio songs, so a few years ago Rob and I got to talking about the stacks of unreleased songs we had laying around, and we decided that at least some of it was good enough to be released. Overall, I’m very satisfied with the finished product. The sound quality isn’t always the greatest, but Brad Vance at DNA did a great job of saving and cleaning up our old tapes, some of which were 25 years old. The fan reaction has been great, and everyone seems to have a different favorite song. We keep getting asked when Volume 2 will come out, and there is still some more material we haven't unearthed yet.
11. For those who haven't heard Falcon, are there any strong similarites or differences to Cirith Ungol?
GREG: Obviously, since there are four old Cirith Ungol songs on the first Falcon CD, there will be some pretty strong similarites to CU. Overall, I'd say that Falcon is a little bit less intense than CU, and some of our songs have a little more of a groove than CU. If you're a fan of early seventies heavy rock like Budgie, Bang, Dust, etc., you're gonna like Falcon. But let me introduce the rest of the band:
Guitarist/singer/songwriter Perry Grayson was in Destiny’s End from ’97 until ’03, playing on their two Metal Blade albums “Breathe Deep the Dark” and “Transition”. Quite a different band from Falcon. Very technical power metal, verging on progressive at times. After Perry left DE he formed another technical metal band called Artisan with friends Mike Bear (bass/vocals) and Ana Greco (guitar/backing vox). Eventually he started to burn out on playing such super fast stuff, and yearning to get back to a more earthier/bluesier style, he left Artisan in Fall ’03 after playing a farewell gig opening for Cathedral, Strapping Young Lad and Samael.
Darin McCloskey is the drummer, lyricist, and driving force behind the well-respected Pennsylvania doomsters Pale Divine. Which is very admirable for a drummer. Not too many drummers get that involved in the songwriting process, etc. Darin does!
12. Are you satisfied with the 'cult following' you've earned? How important is commercial success to you at this point?
GREG: I'm really amazed and honored that CU has so many loyal fans. It took 30 years, but after all the naysayers and negative reviews, it's really gratifying to see that our music has gained some respect and a place in metal history. I get so many emails from fans and fellow musicians telling me how much CU music has meant to them.
I never counted on being able to make a living as a musician, which is why I went to college to earn an engineering degree. I didn't want to end up as a 40 year old burnout working in a guitar store and playing requests at weddings. Having our own record label and handling every facet of the CD production from artwork to distribution can be a hassle at times, but we know where every penny goes, and we know that every decision made will be in our best interest. The downside of not being with a big label is lack of wide scale distribution, but I can tell you that we've made as much money selling 2500 copies of the Falcon CD ourselves as we made from royalties on 25,000 copies of the "Frost And Fire" LP.
13. What are the future plans of Falcon?
GREG: We just finished up some demos of a few new songs that will be on our next album tentatively titled "Die Wontcha" ( a play on the West, Bruce, & Laing album "Why Dontcha"). We also recorded a new version of CU's "Edge Of A Knife" and "Johanna" by Iggy & The Stooges that will probably end up as a compilation track sometime in the future. We plan to record our second album with Chris Kozlowski at the helm again in October 2006, for release in early 2007.
14. At some point do you think there will be a Cirith Ungol reunion?
GREG: Never say never, but I am 99.99% certain there will not be a CU reunion. Even though Rob (Garven) and I are still great friends, he’s become very bitter about the whole business side of music making, and he hasn’t touched a drumstick in 10 years. His Ferrari 308GT4 is his passion now! And Tim (Baker) and Flint have shown no interest, either, and I have doubts about Tim’s voice holding up after 30 years of smoking. So I think it’s best for CU to rest in peace. It’s kind of a shame, since we get offers every year to reform CU and play at some of the big metal festivals in Europe. But as far as I am concerned, all my musical effort is going into FALCON, and I’m totally happy with our musical direction. With everything else going on in my life, I don’t have the time, energy, or the incentive to try and resurrect CU.
15. Any final comments? Websites to plug, etc.?
GREG: Thanks again to all you CU and Falcon fans for the incredible support! I hope to meet all of you someday. In the meantime, check out www.falconband.net, www.myspace.com/falconband, and http://www.myspace.com/cirithungol. Keep on rockin'!
THANKS TO GREG FOR THIS KILLER INTERVIEW! BALLBUSTER SALUTES YOU!
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Origin: Italy
Formed in: 2001
As you know we play lots of coversongs from the epic metal bands of-Gianluca Silvi (guitarist), Metal Domination interview, Apr 2003
the past as Medieval Steel, Omen, Fifth Angel we wanted to play a Cirth
Ungol song too but we recorded it cause a guy called Leatherknight, the
chief of the official CU fan club wanted to make a tribute album and
asked us to play one song, I chose Join The legion cause is one of my
favourite but also cause the lyrics are so.. true and is great to play it live !!
We knew that the vocals of Tim Baker are impossible to imitate but Daniele
made his best; we also wanted to pay the tribute to one of the greatest
bands of the music history.
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Lyrics
In Hell s corrupt and sunken halls the rising shall begin,Music: Cirith Ungol Lyrics: Tim Baker
The bane of man immortal - the parade of broken dead.
With greed our worldly master, so now pain will be our guide,
As the fallen ones await us all to welter by their page.
Iron dreams of human jackals and our final fate is cast -
To slave in endless fire as you cringe before the lash.
Blinded by the darkness, as you pray for his return.
But in your soul you fear he s just another one who'll burn.
With greed our worldly master, now pain will be our guide,
As the fallen ones await us all to welter by their page.
Iron dreams of human jackals - our final fate is cast,
To slave in endless fire, as you cringe before the lash.
Does evil lie in waiting to extract his heavy toll.
Will bowing to the pulpit bring the cloven to their goal,
But if he s the work of mankind, and the beast our morbid dream,
This dying planet is our heaven, and our hell remains the same.
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The last selection that was on our 4th album. Jimmy did some amazing guitar work on all of these. Remember we did not have any of the fancy digital or even mini studio system around today. If we would have these would have been killer!-Robert Garven, linernotes
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Oh, there was a movie called "Better Off Dead" which also came out after the album.-Robert Garven, german Scream Magazine 11/99
I'm tired of beeing the odd man outWritten by Greg Lindstrom
I speak with a whisper and feel with a shout
I feel out of tune, I feel out of key
I feel like I'm missing a part of me
I've got a lot on my head
And my condition's read
I think I'm better off dead
Sometimes
Some people say that lightning never strikes twice
But I've been hit more than once in my life
I've been taken in so many times
A thousand promises, a thousand lies
I've got a lot on my head
And my condition's read
I think I'm better off dead
Sometimes, sometimes
Sometimes I take a look at the world
And sometimes I take a look at the girls
I'm just a spectator, I don't get involved
I've got too many problems of my own to solve
I've got a lot on my head
And my condition's read
I think I'm better off dead
Sometimes
I've got a lot on my head
And my condition's read
I think I'm better off dead
Sometimes, sometimes
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(Dec 79) I heard an Offspring song the other day on the radio that started off with exactly the same drum beat and bass. Incredible coincidence? Not a whole lot different from the F & F version, but it's got a great solo from Jerry, and I like Tim's rising shriek at the end.Greg Lindstrom, linernotes
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(July 78) The oldest (and crudest) recording on here, but the song is cool, (if I do say so myself) with a nice solo from JF. Yours truly on 'vocals'. This song needs to be redone ...-Greg Lindstrom, linernotes
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Description:
Just in time for these chilly fall nights, these are heavy high quality 50/50 Gildan hoodie sweatshirts in black with the praying skeleton logos in white ink, large image on the front, with a small logos on the sleeves. This auction is for a mens size large (L) long sleeve. I also have medium and extra large sizes, just let me know. I am an original member of CIRITH UNGOL, these are official shirts. I always include extra CU goodies with your order! USPS Priority shipping is $5.00. Use that old Metallica shirt of yours to wax the car and Join the Legion!
Availability:
Can you make 2-3XLT sizes?
I don't know how often he reads here, so I recommend you to ask him on eBay. Link above, or you probably alternatively ask him by too by sending him an email at Falcon.
My cousin wants one of these hoodies, but it seems they're sold out.. Is there any way that they might be more soon? Medium or large?
I want one (L).
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The eerie follower "Black Machine" tells of things we all fantasize of, yet there's a big price, your soul!-King Fowley, liner notes
Sleazegrinder: Have you ever ridden the black machine?Lyrics
Robert Garven: Personally, no. I tried to climb aboard but was thrown off. However I drive a red machine on weekends. My other dream was to get a Ferrari. After the band broke up and I paid off all the bills I got married bought a garage with a small house attached, and realized my dream. Weekends find me in the garage listening to bands like ASKA, Fireball Ministry or Riot, taking apart my carburetors (it has 8), or taking something apart. Since my dream of music has died, this is my passion now, and it runs deep, very deep.
Climb aboard the Black Machine
Fills your head with evil dreams
Fills your head with thoughts of fire
A quick escape your one desire
Ride The Black Machine
Pearly whites behind back dawn lips
Ride with the Masters of the Pit
Snapping jaws of the dogs of doom
Kick your way from this stagnant tomb
Ride the Black Machine
Climb aboard the Black Machine
To that place you've never been
The Black Machine will take you higher
Your burning souls our one desire
The blac machine is definetely a dragon custom made 2 wheels ride!!!
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Opener "Blood And Iron" instantly showed the band ith a more traditional heavy metal approach (and production). with an arrangement not far off from the "traditional" metal style of an Iron Maiden or Judas Priest. Surely not a bad tune but severely primitive and somewhat "happy" for a band as musically dark and challenging as Cirith Ungol can be.-King Fowley, liner notes Jan 1999.
Lyrics
The tangled web is slowly woven by feeble leaders mankind's chosen
To satisfy their evil dreams the churning gears of war machines
With iron will they tread across this burning speck of worthless dust
Their metal standards now unfurled they purge the humans from their world
Children of misery centuries long who walked with kings now walk alone
They lie in fear a million deep like cringing herds of human sheep
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The band is writing music for their next full length CD and hope to have it available at the beginning of 2009.-The bands
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my straightforward heavy rocker about being in the music biz-Perry Grayson, 20 Jun 2004
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Lyrics
Slide Solo - Perry
From this tower I can see it all
Past, present, future in chaos
Many years ago I climbed this slope
I was young, down, in need of hope
A rite of passage to manhood
The truth written in alcove stone
Friends stry and turn their backs
I found my calling on that ledge
Visions of a deep blue sky
The roar of guitars in my mind
Chorus:
Natives planted their feet here
I find my dreams when I am near
It might seem bleak, but it's real
Castle Peak, the summit heals
It's a long journey down
Some slip, some fall, lose it all
I returned to blaze that trail
Striving to reach new heights
Chorus
Solo - Perry
In moonlight its shadow looms
Sentinel for the valley below
Seasons pass and trials true
The tower stands by the moon
Find the time to ride the wind
And scale the cliff to destiny
Chorus
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"Chaos Descends" is definitively a throwback to the horror soundscape that fits the band so well and is without doubt a stand out song in the album. This type of song is where their strength is!-King Fowley, liner notes 1999
Lyrics
The might of chaos descends as we join the fight
Against our common foe the jaws of fate
War unleashed the stench of spells
As we thrust our fists into the face of hell
Chaos descends
The final battle begins left or right who decides?
Their mortal terror touches the sky
The beasts of hell blacken heaven's eye
We shout our fear to a soulless sky
Chaos descends
Ashes to ashes war sweeps the land
Burn the world the curse of man
No one heeds the call judgement day
Their iron dream swept away
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The Chaos Trilogy is some of the best stuff CU has done, I think, but it’s also a little bit more generic, Iron Maiden-ish sounding.-Greg Lindstrom, Blood of the Ancients, 11/2002
Lyrics
The doomed one s fallen armies sound the tolling of the bell,Music: Cirith Ungol Lyrics: Tim Baker
While sin and death stand silent guard outpage the Gates of Hell.
He slowly spreads his leather wings and soars above the land,
He strokes his pointed beard and casts an evil eye toward man.
Unchains the dogs of chaos to complete his evil chore
To make the cringing herd of man his thralls by right of war.
They gorge on fatal fruit, taste of dust and bitter ash,
While fire burns in Heaven and immortal forces clash.
The smell of burning brimstone - lightning flung from golden hands.
To rule without a master is the only dream of man.
As they swap our souls among them and prepare the final feast,
Begin the war eternal - cast apage both God and Beast.
Moving toward the evil song that fate will sadly sing,
How the pride of man has fallen, crowning lust their only king.
Heaven screams in anguish and the world cries out in pain,
Unleash the final terror - man begins his now doomed reign.
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These next five songs were off our practice tapes for 'Paradise Lost'. The only time we ever had a lawyer was on this album and we unknowingly signed away the rights to the album forever to Restless Records! For some reason they will not release it or license it so this may be the closest many will get to hear it!-Robert Garven, linernotes
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Have a heavy christmas!
Christmas Ungol picture taken from The Perverted Old Goatess.
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General
Cirith Ungol was a Californian heavy metal band who formed in 1972 and split up in May 1992. They drew influences from other metal groups such as Black Sabbath and Thin Lizzy, as well as Iggy and the Stooges. Their first album, Frost and Fire, was closer to a hybrid between 1970s hard rock and metal with songs written by then bassist and guitarist Greg Lindstrom and drummer Robert Garven, but from King of the Dead and onwards they played a progressive rock influenced brand of doom metal with songs primarily written by vocalist Tim Baker.
History
The band began with Greg Lindstrom, Robert Garven, Jerry Fogle and Pat Galligan (who would later go on to play guitar for Angry Samoans) playing in their first band "Titanic" in high school. With a desire to play heavier music, the rest of the band dumped Pat and reformed in 1972 as Cirith Ungol with Neal Beattie on vocals. It wasn't until 1980 that they were signed by Enigma and released their first record Frost and Fire with Tim Baker on vocals. After their fourth album Paradise Lost, they split up due to frustration caused by problems with their new record company. The year 2001 saw the light of a new Cirith Ungol album which contained old and unreleased demos and songs, but no new material. The album was supported by both Greg and Rob, but not by Tim.
Lindstrom now plays with his new band Falcon, who play some old Cirith Ungol songs. Founding guitarist Jerry Fogle died from liver failure on August 20, 1998.
The name
They took their name from the place Cirith Ungol in J. R. R. Tolkien's epic fantasy novel The Lord of the Rings. The name Cirith Ungol is Elvish and means "Pass of the Spider". While the place in Tolkien's book is pronounced "kirith ungol", the band pronounced it "sirith ungol". The band said in a later interview they had some problems with the name:
Everyone in the band was a big "Sword and Sorcery" literature fan, especially Greg [Lindstrom, guitars] and I. He would always turn us on to the great writers who gave us inspiration for our music. We read all the books... Conan, Bran Mak Morn, etcetera, but the books that stood out in my mind are Michael Moorcock's masterpieces: Elric, Hawkmoon, Corum among others. Greg Lindstrom and I met at an English Literature class where the teacher was reading Lord of the Rings... and Greg and I read it and it had an influence on our music and feelings. In retrospect I wish we had picked something easier to remember because a lot of our trouble has been over our name. People couldn't pronounce it or remember it, but we figured once they did they wouldn't forget it! We've humorously been called "Sarah's Uncle" and "Serious Uncool," for example! I know other bands are using the Tolkien angle. Led Zeppelin even made references to it in their earlier songs. I think he was an influence both then and now on many people.
-Robert Garven
I remember some other possible band names we were conpagering: Minas Tirith, Khazad Dum, and Uruk Hai, all names from "The Lord Of The Rings". Rob and I both liked J.R.R. Tolkien and Enzo Ferrari, so we knew our songs would cover both those subjects!
-Greg Lindstrom
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...But it's the album closer and band theme song "Cirith Ungol" that really needs to be heard. "Try to run, try to hide, if you don't, you'll surely die" says Tim and yet again we're off into the doom and dirge. This song closes the album off really well with some tight, odd time changes, wild vocal echo played right where it's needed, and some damn fine placing.-King Fowley, liner notes
Jerry’s solo on “Cirith Ungol” was the best 30 seconds of our 22 year career!-Robert Garven
Everyone in the band was a big "Sword and Sorcery" literature fan, especially Greg [Lindstrom, guitars] and I. He would always turn us on to the great writers who gave us inspiration for our music. We read all the books... Conan, Bran Mak Morn, etcetera, but the books that stood out in my mind are Michael Moorcock's masterpieces: Elric, Hawkmoon, Corum among others. Greg Lindstrom and I met at an English Literature class where the teacher was reading Lord of the Rings... and Greg and I read it and it had an influence on our music and feelings. In retrospect I wish we had picked something easier to remember because a lot of our trouble has been over our name. People couldn't pronounce it or remember it, but we figured once they did they wouldn't forget it! We've humorously been called "Sarah's Uncle" and "Serious Uncool," for example! I know other bands are using the Tolkien angle. Led Zeppelin even made references to it in their earlier songs. I think he was an influence both then and now on many people.-Robert Garven
I remember some other possible band names we were conpagering: Minas Tirith, Khazad Dum, and Uruk Hai, all names from "The Lord Of The Rings". Rob and I both liked J.R.R. Tolkien and Enzo Ferrari, so we knew our songs would cover both those subjects!-Greg Lindstrom
Lyrics
Try to run try to hide
If you don't you'll surely die
Screaming in terror there you'll lie
In Cirith Ungol Tower of Fire
Gorgons are shriecking their bestial cries
Their piercing cry burns you inpage
Screaming in anguish there you'll lie
In Cirith Ungol Tower of Fire
Demons circle the smoky skies
Your fate hangs before you on a wheel of fire
As you stand revealed to Satans eye
In Cirith Ungol Tower of Fire
Written by Greg Lindstrom
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Even though we played many shows over the years, we never were able to go to Europe and play for our most loyal fans. To this day it is my saddest regret! Remember that these probably were not our best performances, but the only ones to survive.-Robert Garven, linernotes
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THIS IS A BLACK T-SHIRT FROM CIRITH UNGOL WITH THE DESIGN FROM THEIR LP FROST AND FIRE INFRONT AND THEIR LOGO WITH SKULLS BACK. THE BRAND OF THE T-SHIRT IS GILDAN. ALL SIZES FROM XSMALL TO XXLARGE.
Also available in white.
Availability (black)
Coool design!!!
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i want one
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Just stumpled upon this three months old video. Former CU-guitarist Jim Barraza playing parts of Join the Legion.
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Cirith Ungol - Join the Legion (live)
Live at Club Soda, Ventura, Ca. April 1991.
Urban Soul live
Playing live 22 Jan 2011.
Featuring Vern Green.
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Our next one will probably be a double live album. Shit, we might as well do one! I'm sure it will be piledrivin'!!!-Tim Baker, Suck City interview 1986/7
Well, it's just that we're a lot more radical live than on record, man. 'Cause like Jerry goes totally wild! He goes nuts live. He plays shit like where my jaw drops on the floor!
In the future, we may have a custom cover done by Michael Whelan for a "live" album like Dragonslayer.-Robert Garven, Heavy Metal Times 1983
GREG: Aside from Tim rising up out of a coffin at the beginning of the show and battling a giant spider during “Shelob’s Lair”, it was pretty straightforward: Tim shrieking like a banshee, Jerry pulling incredible solos out of his flying V, Rob trying to reduce his drum kit to rubble, and Flint holding the chaos at bay with a wall of thunder.-Blood of the Ancients Magazine 11/2002
ROB: Well we also used to do a song at the end of our set where everyone had a chance to do their big solos. In one part Greg would do the most unbelievable guitar solo, then Jerry would follow with an even more spectacular one, then they would appear together a play a double lead solo that would have literally raised the dead! Usually I would play along with the bass solo then I would play until my hands would bleed sometimes spraying the crowd with my precious bodily fluids, then we would end with this pounding ending that built up into a crescendo snapping at the end like a crack of a whip! Boy, I loved that part!!!!
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“This amateur video was never meant to be released. The audio was taken off the mixing console. As we were an opening act, we had little or no sound check, room on stage, and restricted access to the lighting and sound. Even though, this rare and primitive video is one of the few ever taken of the band!”Check out the live clip of I´m Alive taken off the bonus-DVD and make sure to have a look at the pre-order options at http://www.metalblade.com/cirithungol/
1. Hype Performance
2. Last Laugh
3. Frost and Fire
4. Eyes
5 Better Off Dead
6. 100 MPH
7. I'm Alive
8. Bite of the Worm
9. The Twitch
10. Maybe That's Why
11. Ill Met in Lankhmar
12. Return to Lankhmar
13. Darkness Weaves
14. Witchdance
15. Feeding the Ants
16. Obsidian
CD 2
1. Death of the Sun
2. Fire
3. Fallen Idols
4. Chaos Rising
5. Fallen Idols
6. Paradise Lost
7. Join the Legion
8. Before the Lash
9. Atom Smasher
10. Master of the Pit
11. King of the Dead
12. Last Laugh
13. Cirith Ungol
14. Secret Agent Man
15. Ferrari 308QV
DVD
Live at Wolf & Rissmiller's Country Club
November 9, 1984
1. I'm Alive
2. The Black Machine
3. Master of the Pit
4. King of the Dead!
5. Death of the Sun
6. Finger of Scorn
7. Frost & Fire
8. Cirith Ungol
Servants Of Chaos available on November 18th/21st as a 2-CD/1-DVD double digipak package and on triple gatefold-LP!
Grande banda, TEM Seu Lugar Garantido pro resto dos Tempos! Itamar (Brasil)
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BITCHIN'!!!!!!!!!!!!
I want to buy a large back patch like this -> http://www.truemetal.org/cirithungol/images/uploaded/patch_redblacklogo.jpg ... BUT ! I can't find, can you help me ?
Not me, sorry. Try contacting all the sellers listed above, and hopefully one of them can help you.
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Its one of our favourite band of all times. I speak with Greg and Robert from time to time trying to convice them to play at Up the Hammers festival something that can't work. We chosen the song for many reasons. One of them and the most important is that we love the song as every Cirith Ungol song ever written. The song has also a lyrical theme that is what me and Marco wanted to express after our departure from battleroar. We were born with a 6 string in our hands and we'll go it alone hehe.-Manolis "Barraza" Karazeris (guitarist and organizer of the festival), 19 Mar 2010
We had been wanting to play a Cirith Ungol cover for quite a long time, and although it's indeed an anusual choice we found out "Go It Alone" was the right one for us, for many different reasons. Our guitar player Akis loves it for its Van Halen feel, and the vocal melodies used by Tim Baker on this one are more "standard" and less complex to pull out for me compared to what he does on most of the other Cirith Ungol songs. Since it is an up tempo rocker with a big chorus it worked well live and certain parts of the lyrics reflect exactly what we are now doing, being back with Dexter Ward. I also have to say I liked this song from the first time I listened to Paradise Lost. The six strings in my hand thing, some might call it clichè, I call it the rock and roll way and fighting for your dreams ... can you get more pure and more honest than this, and most of all, more american? We are reaching our middle 30s now but for us this dream is more alive than ever.-Marco Concoreggi (vocalist), 22 Mar 2010
Great coversong! Probably my least favourite song from Paradise Lost, but it seems it works out much better live than on the flat studioversion. Enjoyable feelgood song!
marco concoreggi for president!!!!
very cool-sounds great also
Here is another recording of the same performance.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJ-AgncqWKs
Good to see some bands bringing some elements of the legends of Cirith Ungol to their current audiences. Not my favorite track from CU but, it does sound pretty cool.
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I got me this aweseome shirt a while back. I would love to see a few more possible designs-- or the cover of King of the Dead!
Wrote too soon-- I see there is such a shirt- if it is in my size- I'll get it.
I have two of these as longsleeves in different sizes.
I also have the King of the Dead-shirt, great shirt, but I'm not sure
if it's official. If a shirt is too large for me, I just pull it over a
hoodie, and tadah!
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Classix Metal #2, April 2009. Italian metalzine. If you would like to translate this, be my guest, don't hesitate! Click the images to zoom.
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Das Line-up der wiederstarkten CIRITH UNGOL liest sich damit folgendermaßen:
Tim Baker - Gesang
Greg Lindström - Bass
Perry Grayson - Gitarre
Rob Garven - Schlagzeug
Doch damit nicht genug:
Sollten die Konzerte Ende 2011 gut verlaufen so erwägt die Band, gegebenenfalls sogar ein neues Studioalbum aufzunehmen! Wir harren der Dinge, die da kommen mögen...!
UPDATE 03 APR 2011
This was of course just an 1st April fool as confirmed by Perry Grayson. Copied from some German metal forums. Btw, Perry didn't play in Helstar, but in Destiny's End.
Love this band! This better not be a joke! The legion has been awaiting this news for ages. What about Jim though?
I fear it's April Fools Day...
Unfortunetly I'm guessing this is an April fools joke.
According to posts on Tim's Facebook page Jim is itching for a jam session. It would be cool to have 2 guitars.
I confirm that the news regarding the return of CIRITH UNGOL is an April fools joke! Unfortunately....!!!
I wish the news was true!!!! Praise the band and celebrate the music!!!! CIRITH UNGOL will remain one of my Top-5 favorite ever bands. Forever!!!
They did this last year. But I'm serious here.
How is this April fools "joke" even the slightest bit funny??? Oh man.
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Hello, I would like to interview Cirith Ungol for a spanish fanzine: www.myspace.com/boneyardzine . But I don't find any contact with them!! Please can you tell me about?? Thank you.
hey dani..scott campbell here...hope this finds you well...i have additional stuff for you...
prophecy- original "go it alone" demo/w jimmy
and additional prophecy demo "buried alive" (jimmy recently posted a bootleg recording on you tube)
also live rehersals of prophecy with jimmy recorded ...
and much other related stuff...let me know where to send....
take care
Hello, I'm wondering who might have a brand new, factory sealed copy of the Paradise Lost CD on Noble Rot for sale at a reasonable price. Thank you from an old Cirith Ungol fan.
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Unfortunately the sound quality is not great and the beginning is missing. If you know of a better version, please comment or contact!
UPDATE 22 Dec 2010: Comments from the band under the video!
A short interview with Nick Papakostas, guitars and vocals, 22 Dec 2010
What are your relations to Cirith Ungol?
- We do not have any personal relations to Cirith Ungol. We are just huge huge huge fans of their music.
Why
did you choose to cover Cirith Ungol?
- We used to jam some Cirith
Ungol songs during our rehearsals. We played at Larissa city some weeks
ago and we thought to give it a try. We played "Black Machine" and it
went really well. Everyone's comment were very encouraging.
And why exactly I'm Alive?
- Because
it is one of the best songs ever written and one of our favorites. He
hadn't told anyone that we were going to cover I'm Alive. It was a big
surprise for all.
You
do not have to know the story behind the lyrics. Each one of us had in
his life one, two or many dark times... This song reflects our feelings
in times like these. It gives us a way to express emotions. But the true
power of the song is in the end. The last two lines are the ones that
give you strenght to hold and move on... Great great great song. Fully
emotional...
Will this cover be released on any record?
It wasn't recorded. Only what you saw on youtube, so no!
Any plans for a studio cover version?
Not
for the moment! I think that a song like this cannot be re-recorded. It
might lose its originality. The production of "Frost and Fire" is one
of the elements that makes it so magical (even though for many people it
isn't "good")
Nick and Convixion
Comments by Nick Papakostas of Convixion added!
Great cover IMO, Papakostas, the singer, looks and sounds very passionate. Would be nice to hear more Ungol covers from these guys.
Ι think this the right attitude to treat CIrith Ungol,well done guys you did great!
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Another live version of this cover.
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The lyrics to "Corporate Whore" were written when I was outraged over my dealings with that corrupt landlord. The music came before the words. It's roughly a tale about someone who once held fast to the hippie ideals of the late '60s and then turned their back on them to become a crass, money-hungry pig. Someone who doesn't hesitate to screw over hard working individuals if it means a fatter bank account. I saw plenty of that in L.A. On one hand I wish I'd been around to experience the hippie era, on the other I see the backlash. AIDS, corporate globalization, you name it. People call the '80s the "Me Decade." A lot of people are still way too self-absorbed.-Perry Grayson, 21 Jan 2009
And as a proud employee of mega corporation Boeing, I'm relieved to learn that "Corporate Whore" wasn't written about me!-Greg Lindstrom, 21 Jan 2009
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In Episode 096, the topic is Metal anno 1984. Of course Cirith Ungol are one of the bands being discussed and played.
Content for Episode 096:
Egypt (The Chains Are On) (6:58) Dio The
Last in Line
TALKSET 1
The Sentinal (5:04) Judas Priest Defenders
of the Faith
Back in the Village (5:03) Iron Maiden Powerslave
Gypsy (3:09) Mercyful Fate Don’t
Break the Oath
Escape (4:23) Metallica Ride the
Lightening
TALKSET 2
Haunting the Chapel (3:56) Slayer Haunting
the Chapel
Mad Butcher (3:31) Destruction Sentence
of Death
Witching Metal (3:13) Sodom In the
Sign of Evil
Sacrifice (3:17) Bathory Bathory
Morbid Tales (3:29) Celtic Frost Morbid
Tales
Drop Dead (1:08) Siege Drop Dead
TALKSET 3
Atom Smasher (4:12) Cirith Ungol King
of the Dead
Psalm 9 (4:50) Trouble Psalm 9
The podcast can be downloaded for free as MP3, or streamed from Requiem Metal Podcast. The part with Cirith Ungol starts about 01:13:50.
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Two bands playing together! This
track was AFAIK only ever released on this tribute album.
Crystal Viper - Bandinfo
Origin: Poland
Formed in: 2003
Elixir - Bandinfo
Origin: U.K.
Formed in: 1983
Website / MySpaceWe planned to record two songs with Paul and Phil of ELIXIR and one of them was "Chaos Rising". The guys came to Poland for few days and we recorded two songs together. Sadly, one of them just got lost in the studio by accident. And why did we choose this song? I think, it's the best song by CIRITH UNGOL and it fits perfectly to CRYSTAL VIPER!-Marta "Leather Wych" Gabriel (Crystal Viper vocalist), Metal Maidens interview Jul 2008
We heard a lot of good words from one of the musicians of CIRITH UNGOL. You know, it was great to hear, that he liked our version!
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(March 80) Hey, the flanger's plugged in, I might as well use it.-Greg Lindstrom, linernotes
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Bandinfo
Origin: Germany
Formed in: 1990
Well, let me first mention was was origiinally written in the liner notes to that tribute album: „Cirith Ungol have always been one of our main influences. Those of you old enough may remember that we hailed them in our thanks list on our 1993 MCD-release „Celebrate The Agony“. We chose „Doomed Planet“ because a) „Frost And Fire“ was already taken by another band and b) it´s the perfect choice for an old school true doom outfit like we are – just take a look at the apocalyptic lyrics....some years ago Robert Garven even came up with the idea that I could maybe handle the vocals on another Cirith Ungol album...even though I was honoured as fuck, I declined – of course! I could never imagine CU without Tim Baker – could you? Doomed blessings go to all our underground brethren! BOW BEFORE THE MASTERS OF THE PIT!!!“
I first heard „Blood And Iron“ on a late night metal radio show in 1986. I immediately went and bought all 3 CU albums. Since then I was a die hard CU follower. CU were one of the reasons I founded Dawn Of Winter in 1990. Their unique epic style combined with the aggression and pure metal feeling, topped by the most unusual voice ever just infected me forever. On the first promotional picture we ever shot for DOW in 1991 I wore a white CU shirt, with the skeletons praying. Of course I had that one made myself at a copy shop, haha. I also dug their „Paradise Lost“ record which I bought in 1991 as an import, even though it kinda lacked the genius of the earlier recodings in parts. Since 1986 I am a hunter for everthing concerning CU. Luckily, due to the fact that I had started working for Metal Blade Records in late 1999 (I stayed there for 9 years) , I had the chance to get in contact with Robert directly and was involved in the release of the „Servants Of Chaos“ Double CD and the picture LP re-issues of King Of The Dead“ & „One Foot in Hell“ In fact, I was the guy who handnumbered all of them , haha. I am very lucky that I have received some outstandining memorabilia like the original big „One Foot In Hell“ poster, a hand made framed skeleton picture, made in 1986 just for close friends of the band, tons of stickers, etc, etc. To cut it short, I am more than grateful to have had the chance to work with Robert and for CU!! MAY THEY RULE FOREVER!!!!
-Gerrit Philipp Mutz (vocals), 16 Jul 2010
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A re-recorded "Death of The Sun" brings in side two. And while a bit less over-the-top than the amazing "Metal Massacre" version, it still goes hand in hand with the direction and sound of the record.-King Fowley, liner notes
Lyrics
Burning in its savage fury
Our fates accept not judge or jury
Helpless we must watch it done
For i have seen the Death of the Sun
We are coming to the end
I see my life and i have sinned
It's too late to change our ways
For man has seen his final days
Solar winds that parch the land
Minions are wasted by Satans hand
A molten globe will torch the sky
As mankind bleats his final cry!
Written by Robert Garven, 1977
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This version appeared on Brian Slagel's first Metal Blade album 'Metal Massacre One'. We have pumped up the bass here, I think it was the best song on the album. Our song was faster than Metallica's, go figure!-Robert Garven, linernotes
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Destiny’s End recorded their debut album, Breathe Deep the Dark, with respected engineer Bill Metoyer co-producing. Breathe Deep the Dark can be considered loosely conceptual with lyrics focused on questions of mortality and individualism. The album is a collection of intense songs displaying memorable melodies, blistering speed and extreme heaviness.
Formerly of the band New Eden, DeLucie, Andi and Craig gained admiration for their CD Through the Make Believe (1997), which received perfect scores in magazines like Rock Hard and Heavy Oder Was. They have opened for such top metal acts as Fates Warning, leaving metal fans across the globe clamoring for new material. Soon after the release of Through the Make Believe, New Eden joined forces with vocalist James Rivera (Helstar). Splitting from guitarist Horacio Colmenares, the four recruited talented young axeman Perry Grayson, chose the new moniker Destiny’s End and began writing material for what has now become Breathe Deep the Dark.
With Breathe Deep the Dark Destiny’s End established themselves as a driving force in the resurgence of power metal. The experience and energy they possess proved them to be True Metal warriors.
1999-2001
Following a few successful regional tours of Texas in 1998 through early 1999 (one with Mercyful Fate and two as headliners), Destiny’s End scored a full-scale U.S. tour with fellow American metallers Iced Earth and Nevermore in May-June 1999. An appearance at the illustrious Wacken Open Air Festival in Germany in August 1999 brought DE overseas for the first time. A European tour with labelmates Sacred Steel and Wardog augmented the Wacken appearance. DE appeared on two tribute albums, covering Dio’s “The Last in Line” for Holy Dio (Century Media) and “Dressed in White” for the King Diamond Tribute (Necropolis). The tracks were engineered and co-produced by Warrior guitarist Joe Floyd. Floyd would likewise be called upon to engineer and co-produce DE’s second album, Transition, in early 2000. Transition was recorded in March 2000 at Silver Cloud Recording in Burbank, CA. But all was not well in the DE camp. Disagreements over haphazardly arranged one-off gigs and general splintering were creeping into the DE fold. When Joe Floyd’s mix was completed, Perry Grayson decided to leave the band for personal reasons. Following Perry’s departure Rivera drafted Houston guitarist Eric Halpern to fill Grayson’s position for several shows. Grayson, now tackling aggressive vocals as well as guitar, formed progressive thrash/death metal outfit Artisan in June 2000 with bassist/vocalist Mike Bear and guitarist/vocalist Ana Greco. Meanwhile, unhappy with Joe Floyd’s powerful mix of Transition, Metal Blade Germany ordered a rather lacklustre remix by Achim Köhler without any band members present. This further delayed the release of Transition, which finally saw the light of day in May 2001 – far too late for a band in their unfortunate death throes. Though Halpern’s picture appears on the CD, he did not record a note with DE. Perry Grayson and Dan DeLucie played all of the guitar tracks on the album. Shortly after Transition hit the streets Metal Blade dropped Destiny’s End from their contract and the band faded from view. There was gossip of a possible reunion gig in 2008, but it remained just a rumor.
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James Rivera later sang for Seven Witches (DE drummer Brian Craig was along for the ride on one of the SW albums), then Distant Thunder, a resurrected Helstar and for a short while Vicious Rumors. Rivera is still active with metal covers band Sabbath Judas Sabbath and Helstar, while Dan DeLucie eventually formed Crescent Shield with vocalist Michael Grant (Onward) and released two albums. Nardo Andi and Brian Craig have not actively pursued music since the early 2000s. Alongside the aforementioned Artisan, Perry Grayson formed his vintage heavy rock power trio Falcon (for which he also sings) in 2002 with founding Cirith Ungol member Greg Lindstrom. In addition to Artisan’s demo/EP (2002), Grayson played both rhythm and lead guitar on international metal project Isen Torr’s Mighty and Superior EP (2003), spearheaded by Solstice (UK) guitarist Rich Walker. Perry Grayson left Artisan in late 2003 to concentrate on Falcon full-time, and in 2005 he played bass for Pennsylvania doom rockers Pale Divine on a European tour. Falcon have released two albums.
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Hope their Iron Maiden cover Twilight Zone will be included as well!
That is the supreme idea. Is that possible to receive the cool ringtones or ringtones at this page?
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Diabolical Conquest webzine
Robert Garven interview
Conducted by Nin Chan
It is my sincere (and even dire) hope that Cirith Ungol require absolutely no introduction to a reader of this rag. To call Cirith Ungol one of my favorite bands of all time would be a grotesque understatement, cheapening the band by mentioning them in the same breath as other musical entities. To suggest that King Of The Dead is one of my favorite records would be to suggest the agonizingly obvious, for in all earnesty I consider it the absolute apex of American heavy metal, alongside Secret Treaties, Tyranny & Mutation, Vincebus Eruptum, Queensryche and Awaken The Guardian, a record that has endured, through years of tumult and personal strife, as a perpetual source of comfort during periods of profound aggravation and acrimony, one of those monumental moments in musical history that affirm, in the breadth of 40 odd minutes, exactly why you bleed and obsess about this music- to experience those moments of transcendental bliss, that undiluted jolt of rock n'roll ecstasy/epiphany that floods your being with fulfillment and rapture.
King Of The Dead is a heavy rock monolith, a recording that brazenly defies the dictates of time and place, a burst of musical expression that is so ethereal, so mindwarpingly idiosyncratic that it is almost as though it were retrieved from another dimension and imposed upon a world that has yet to fully comprehend the sheer depth of its profundity. There are few things that could hope to match the record in sheer malefic, morose DOOM, the band welding a host of fantastical themes to craft unremittingly eldritch narratives of fear, loathing and impending Ragnarok. I don't care what anyone says, next to Pentagram 's Day Of Reckoning and Pagan Altar 's Lords Of Hypocrisy , King Of The Dead is the penultimate summation of dread, every other doom album, in comparison, is but a mere ripple upon the shadow-shrouded bog that Cirith Ungol haunt and govern. Timeless, legendary, such trite superlatives do no justice to the legacy of Cirith Ungol , and it is testament to their fiercely individualistic flair that, in this age of contrived facsimile, no band has DARED to emulate the horrific sonic blueprint of Fogle, Flint, Garven and Baker. It was an absolute privilege to conduct a chat with Robert Garven, unquestionably one of the most distinctive/brilliant percussionists in heavy metal history. Count one of my lifetime goals fulfilled!
- Conducted by Nin Chan
Diabolical Conquest (Nin Chan): Hails, Robert! The word "cult band'' is thrown around with such reckless abandon nowadays, but I do believe that Cirith Ungol are one of the the DEFINITIVE cult bands in heavy metal history- it is impossible to ‘'like'' Cirith Ungol , one must pledge one's unconditional, unyielding allegiance to Cirith Ungol, prostrate oneself before the black altar of the Master Of The Pit and faithfully chant devotional hymns of Frost & Fire on a daily basis! People who love Cirith Ungol , really, truly obsess over them, I know that I once listened to King Of The Dead for 5 hours on repeat while reading Stormbringer and Kull . Are you a little disturbed over the all-engrossing Cirith Ungol mania that seems to have consumed certain circles of the underground metal community? Conversely, does it frustrate you that all this almost religious fanaticism emerges posthumously, and didn't save Cirith Ungol from an untimely end?
Robert (Cirith Ungol): Well I was not aware that any mania exists but it I am glad to hear of it. I am very passionate about my music anCirith Ungold interests and I am very happy that all the blood, sweat and tears we put into the music has not been for naught!
Diabolical Conquest: I know that you were always into Granicus, Demian/Bubble Puppy, The Stooges, Captain Beyond (obvious GODS), Highway Robbery (a real KILLER) all among my favorite bands of the ‘70s. Did you also catch wind of Pentagram/ Macabre/Bedemon at the time? I feel that, along with Pagan Altar from England, they are Cirith Ungol 's only equals as far as despondent, despotic, demonic (post- Sabbath) DOOM goes, and another band that I have devoted much time to collecting and obsessing over. Also, you have mentioned that you are into Night Sun 's magnificent “Mournin'” album (truly, Look At Yourself Uriah Heep on a weird cocktail of amphetamines and acid, incredibly warped, mind numbing riffing and psychedelic turns on that album), the first two Scorpions masterworks and the legendary Lucifer's Friend debut (unfortunately the only worthwhile album they put out)…were you into any of the other heavy German stuff like Tiger B Smith, Silberbart, I Drive, Blackwater Park, Hairy Chapter, My Solid Ground, Birth Control? Being Canadian, I also share your love for Moxy and A Foot In Coldwater …have you heard other Canadian monoliths like Bent Wind, Christmas and the FANTASTIC Charlee (Walter Rossi)? What are your thoughts?
Cirith Ungol: Well, I have not heard of some of those bands but will be on the lookout for them. I do have the Pentagram CD and an album of Tiger B. Smith!
DC: While there is a sizeable aesthetic chasm that exists between Frost & Fire and the masterfully morose King Of The Dead , and there is a substantive shift in lyrical content (more focus on sword n'sorcery imagery), I've always considered Frost & Fire a doom classic in its own right. Some of the lyrical fare is a lot more straightforward and rooted in the rock n'roll rebel aesthetic championed by Steppenwolf all those years ago, but the feelings of alienation, solitude, desolation, doubt and impending DOOM are already very evident throughout Frost & Fire , and of course this aspect of Cirith Ungol was already flaunted and celebrated on that legendary turn on Metal Massacre , “Death Of The Sun”. Sure, some of the tracks were a tad cheerful sounding, but the eccentricity of the riffing and the blighted, downtrodden slant of the morbid lyrics gave each song a very twisted, very sinister atmosphere. ”Sometimes, I take a look at the world/Sometimes, I take a look at the girls/I'm just a spectator I don't get involved/I've got too many problems of my own to solve.”…That's so fatalistic in its resignation/alienation, the ultimate acknowledgement of one's crippling finitude. Yet, the album also featured perhaps the only glimpses of hope and optimism in the Cirith Ungol universe, “Maybe That's Why” and “Edge Of A Knife” are anthems for the rock n'roll nomad. In many ways, I think Frost & Fire really can be looked upon as the WEIRDEST of the Cirith Ungol albums, and a true bonafide classic of sinister rock n'roll. What do you think of this assessment?
CU: Greg wrote all the lyrics and much of the compositions on Frost and Fire and his genius shines bright here. We all took part in evolving the songs but his stamp is definitely all over the project. I wrote “Death of the Sun”, “King of the Dead” and “Doomed Planet” so my outlook was more morbid. Greg's lyrics seemed to speak on a level of personal feelings, whereas my lyrics were all fantasy based, as was my life! After Greg left we decided that we wanted to go into the Sword and Sorcery theme, which responded to the literature that we were reading at the time. I don't think it was such a deliberative decision but one based on where we were at, at the time
Cirith UngolDC: Cirith Ungol were never a reserved band, you guys really did everything in excess. To this day, the three Cirith Ungol albums remain the most unique sounding heavy metal records I've ever laid ears on- Jerry, Greg and Jim all boasted some of the most OTHERWORLDLY guitar sounds I've ever encountered, and your drum sound was like some mutant emanation from an alternate reality. I won't even venture to ask you how you went about achieving that sound in the studio, but Cirith Ungol really took that element of pomp and theatricality of sword n'sorcery era Rush, ELP and Demons And Wizards/The Magician's Birthday Uriah Heep to the early ‘80s- you attached light-emitting sensors to your cymbals, and Tim was wheeled out on stage in a coffin prior to shows…Clearly you took the image of Cirith Ungol very seriously. Was it very important to you to distinguish, visually, Cirith Ungol from all of your contemporaries? Did you ever feel that you were doing a bit of a Spinal Tap?
CU: Greg once asked me if I had ever seen the movie and I said no. When I finally saw it was less of a comedy to me than a very sad remembrance of my time as a musician. Most of that stuff actually happened to us (except for the drummer dying) and yes our amps really went to 11! In reality, until the last couple of years we had no show, it was all go. We would come on stage and everyone thought we were this little sissy band and we would proceed to blow everyone away. We never meant it to be like a competition but when you show up on time for your sound check, and don't get one. Or you have to dress in the hallway because Ratt has 3 dressing rooms, or you get the electricity pulled on you so that Armored Saint can make the crowd wait an hour until they bless the stage with their self inflated presence, well you get the point. Until our final years, we were mainly an opening act and we were treated pretty badly.
Since we did not understand the childish and infantile nature of (some) the bands we were opening up for we felt sort of betrayed by musicians we would have probably been civilized to in another situation. We were also not from LA but from 100 miles up the coast where it is actually nice to live, (unlike LA which is a hell hole to us) so we were treated like outsiders. Make no mistake, even from our days in high school we were a musical force to be reckoned with. We played loud and hard. I broke every cymbal I ever had (well almost) and I used to bleed on my drums. I remember a time when my whole set was covered in dried blood! Jerry and Greg and later Flint were no slouches either, Greg has always been very smart and he new his way around the fret boards, and or fretless boards, and Jerry was the only guy I ever knew who would destroy guitars by just playing them. We had a following that would come out to see us even in the driving rain. Later I had pyrotechnics that would shoot balls of fire off my cymbals, but we never set any place on fire!! I guess what I am saying is that we let the music speak for itself, and it spoke volumes. We played loud, we practiced loud and we recorded as loud as the studios would let us!
DC: I can hardly think of another band that was as hell-bent on themes of DOOM as Cirith Ungol . Many of the songs you penned on the first three records are fixated with an oncoming apocalypse, and the absolute haplessness of mankind in evading it. Why was the band so obsessed with this nihilistic helplessness? It almost suggests that you read a lot of Lovecraft, that belief that mankind is incapacitated in the face of chaos' designs (“Chaos Descends” and “Doomed Planet” are good examples!). In an ‘80s where speed metal bands where urging fans to seize the mantle and stick it to the man, Cirith Ungol were doling out unhealthy servings of debilitating depression. The cover of King Of The Dead is vintage horror- a helpless, avaricious warrior ambushed by a horde of simian beings and a re-animated skeletal being, once again suggesting man's impotence in the face of the paranormal. Do you think Cirith Ungol 's doom n'gloom preoccupation was one of the reasons for the metal mainstream's indifference towards the band? Cirith Ungol
CU: I still feel the failure of the band can be spread around pretty evenly but it must be said that the record companies which knew much more of the intricacies of the business could have done something, anything to help promote the band. Metal Blade made one poster and set up one show for us. Enigma/ Restless had lots of connections and all we really needed was a manager and some tour support. Enigma did support us by setting up a show in Mexico City, and they did try to get us one manager a guy from England who turned out to be Guns and Roses' manager, he wanted us to wear make-up like the Motley Crues of the time and we refused, so he refused to work with us, which is kind of sad but typical of the bullshit we experienced. I think I alienated allot of people with my constant badgering about getting the band promoted but I saw the talent we had compared to the other bands out there especially in LA at the time. I still think of Ratt, Poison, Motley Crue and Metallica as pretty sad acts personally and kind of surprised they ever made it. It just goes to show what I was told early on, “The music business is about business, and not about music”, which we found out sadly to be totally true. It was all about the promotion or lack of it in our case that made or broke bands. It is a testament to our will that we stayed together as long as we did for close to 20+ years!
DC: While the band was plagued by poor management, I think one of the foremost reasons that Cirith Ungol failed to win much acclaim during their time was the fact that you folks were WAY ahead of your time. It is very possible that even if you were to unleash King Of The Dead even today, that you would STILL be misunderstood and maligned by the public at large. Cirith Ungol was a band that was too honest, too urgent, too dark and too damn odd to truly win the hearts of those preoccupied with discovering the most Satanic, fastest, or conversely, the most well-coiffed/well-permed heavy metal outfit out there. You brought with you lessons well-learned from a bygone ‘70s, but renewed and regurgitated forth these lessons in a form that hardened metalheads still have trouble comprehending today. I know that you labored VERY hard to keep Cirith Ungol alive and that you remain quite hurt about the demise of Cirith Ungol even today. Still, do you agree with my assertion that Cirith Ungol will forever fly above the heads of the mainstream? Perhaps it was a case of the band being born too late, for if, say, you were a product of 1971 USA you might have won a larger audience?
CU: I think that from my perspective being heavily into the whole Sword and Sorcery and Horror literature at the time my dark influences came from these. I am still a huge reader of H. P. Lovecraft and would encourage anyone who has not read this great writers works to seek them out immediately, Both Steven King and Clive Barker have said that if it were not for him that neither of them would have started writing. There was some weird stuff out during our time that was successful so I do not think it was that. I still believe that the failure of our band to make it was one of investment of money and lack of promotion by the record companies. This does not let us off the hook for not being better businessmen, but it seems that true artists are really not the best businessmen and visa versa. As far as us being born to late or early even though I have heard that I am not sure it would have made a difference, its all about the money.
DC: One thing that you inherited from growing up with ‘70s records was a looseness and unmistakable SWING to your idiosyncratic drumming style- truly, there has been no drummer since that has played or sounded quite like you. Are you a self-taught drummer? To what do you accredit your highly individualistic and unmistakable drumming style, which is absolutely as crucial to the Cirith Ungol sound as Flint's MONSTROUS finger-style bass-sound, Jerry Fogle's shrill, piercing guitar shriek and Tim's yelping screams? Was it always a conscious decision for Cirith Ungol to play and sound differently from everyone else, or did all these weird facets of the Cirith Ungol sound come about fluidly and naturally? Or, indeed, was a combination of both deliberation and spontaneity? Did you ever alter certain parts in songs because they were too straightforward/not angular enough/not distinctively Cirith Ungol enough?
CU: Although I took some drum lessons later in my career. I was completely self-taught. Mainly by practicing, playing along with my favorite drummers and listening to their music for inspiration. I was inspired by drummers like Keith Moon, Ginger Baker, and Bill Ward who played sometimes against the grain of the music. I wish I were still playing as I can hear the drum parts in my head of our songs and hear new beats that would have improved them a little. As for the second part of your question I always tried to from my perspective, when I had a chance to help the songs evolve to become the best that they could be. I spent hours arguing over riffs with the rest of the band to get one note added or removed to make the song or riff better. That is my biggest beef with bands like Metallica I think sometimes there songs are too crude and needed more work. The best 20 seconds of music we ever wrote and or played was cut out on the mix down by Ron Goudie (the producer of “Paradise Lost”) because he micro-managed the recording sessions badly and forgot how the song went. I've said it before but this CD could have been the best we ever did but with Flint quitting and the overproduction and loss of any control by the band it was I think the worst. For instance, none of us were allowed in the studio while the others recorded. I played the drums to a forced click track without any emotion. When we protested we were threatened with the plug being pulled so we soldiered on. I cried when I heard the final mix….
Cirith UngolDC: I have read in other interviews that you are a heavy metal purist, in that you are not a big fan of the speed/thrash metal boom that arose in the nascent wake of Cirith Ungol , and I infer from that that you are clearly not enthused about the death/black metal that followed, either. However, what did you think of the emerging doom metal bands of the period, bands like War Cry, Trouble, Candle mass/Nemesis, Pentagram (the ‘80s Peaceville lineup), Mercy (Sweden). Of course, Cirith Ungol formed just prior to the boom of the NWOBHM, and there were quite a few bands that peddled a sound one might say was thematically akin to what Cirith Ungol was doing, like Angel Witch, Desolation Angels, Witchfynde, Demon, Witchfinder General, Electric Savage, Apocalypse, Tellurian etcetera. Did you ever have a chance to hear these bands? I'm curious to know whether you branded your work “doom metal” at any point of your careers (for, as I said, Cirith Ungol to me is doom DEFINED). Does it feel bizarre to you that Cirith Ungol were one of the foremost architects of a musical movement that has now become a global phenomenon, further elaborating upon ideas first set forth by the pioneers, Black Sabbath, Pentagram and Budgie ?
CU: I feel humbled to be even included with some of the greats such as Black Sabbath. I must admit that my tastes were and are for a more heavy beat. Even though I appreciate some of the death metal but just like rap I don't get the monotone singing thing. I was also never into speed for speeds sake. A fast song is great but 10 on an album is limiting. I am impressed by a singer with a wide range, even though The Darkness only has like one or two good songs on their albums, man that guy has a great voice! You mention Granicus, there was a band from LA called Pavlov's Dog and singer had a very high-pitched voice, which I really liked. I must confess I have been listening to allot of Queensryche lately and really like some of their albums such as Empire and Operation Mindcrime!
DC: Keeping in mind the fact that you dislike the “crossover” of speed metal and punk rock that became thrash metal, I'm curious to know if you've kept abreast of recent heavy rock music. Could you name some of the bands that you're into nowadays? Do you still attend shows of bands you enjoy?
CU: Greg gave me two albums and said, “Hey I bet you'll like these guys”. One was a band they played with Fireball Ministry, another was ASKA a band from Texas their album Avenger is phenomenal! There is also a band in Italy Domine, that has Elric on all their album covers and I really like their album Emperor of the Black Runes . I was also blown away by the covers to our songs that just came out on the Cirith Ungol tribute album. I think some of the versions of our songs are better than our original versions! I also got some Riot albums from Germany I never heard and they kick ass! I am also finding music I never heard. It is funny that you can still discover bands 20 years after they put out there work and be blown away by them. Another album I loved was from a band called Mrs. Hippie, thought they were great but the record company said they sold few cd's so what is new!
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DC: I understand that you have always been deeply into Ferraris, and finally satiated a lifetime yen for your very own Ferrari. What is it about the car that has fascinated you for so many years? It would appear that a Ferrari is a strange rock n'roll fetish, when most blue-collar rock n'roll outlaws champion the Harley Davidson.
CU: Well don't get me started! I was attracted to Ferrari as a child, being born on the same day that Dino Ferrari died in Italy 50 years ago. I remember the first time I saw a Ferrari in San Francisco, I was around 11 at the time. I remember getting down on my hands and knees in front of it looking at the prancing horse badge and thinking that this is the most beautiful thing I have ever seen. Many Ferraristi have similar stories. It is funny as we have some popularity in Italy and I have a love for all things Italian. I even have a Roman soldiers outfit that I wear around sometimes! My main love is the sound of the engines. The heart of every Ferrari is the engine and unless you have been in a 12 cylinder Ferrari at 8000 rpm redline there is no way to explain the mechanical symphony produced. My Dino is only an 8 cylinder but it has 4 double throat Weber carburetors and it has its own scream which I an enamored with. At night flames shoot out of the exhaust pipes! Actually many rocker and drummers have a love for the cars, as they are the pinnacle of automotive achievement! Period!
DC: Of course, the Michael Whelan cover (one of the most iconic covers in heavy metal) of Frost & Fire affirmed the fact that Cirith Ungol were fantasy buffs. Which of the Elric books do you hold in the highest regard? Did Cirith Ungol ever contact Moorcock in the hope that he would do a collaboration akin to the one he did with Hawkwind? Also , choose a non-Conan hero: Kull, Bran Mak Morn, Solomon Kane. Who, and why? (Bran Mak Morn for me, “Worms Of The Earth” is one of my favorite Howard stories ever). How did fantasy sculpt the otherworldly vision of Cirith Ungol ? Are there any contemporary fantasy writers whom you particularly admire (I like Ursula LeGuin and Terry Pratchett)? Cirith Ungol
CU: Well once again we find common ground “Worms of the Earth” is well……fantastic! Michael Whelan was one of the few people that not only did not abuse us but I feel that we never got to financially repay him for the honor of having his artwork grace our covers. My biggest regret is that he and Greg Hazard our long time photographer were never adequately compensated for the work that they so graciously provided. I know we were not either but that is not the point. I never met Michael Moorcock and even though I revered his works, Elric along with the Corum trilogies, I never had the pleasure to meet him. I think the covers to our first 3 albums were the best we could have ever dreamt of and I will always be proud to be associated to them even if only in the same sentence!
DC: I have read interviews with yourself and Bobby Liebling of Pentagram where you both have described record-buying trips. Obviously, in an age where the internet was unheard-of and zines regarding heavy music were few and far between, it must have been very difficult to discern heavy music from the other slop. You stated in another interview that you used to determine how heavy a group was by looking at the grooves of the record. Did this often turn out to be a fruitful experiment? Describe an average record-buying trip in the late ‘70s. Also, were you into any funk and/or soul at the time, considering the considerable influence it had on a lot of heavy rock at the time, particularly bands like Trapeze, The Stooges, Power Of Zeus and Lincoln St Exit ? (I'm deeply into lots of old Motown soul, blues and hard funk like Funkadelic, Sly And The Family Stone, The Isleys, The Meters, Average White Band and many others). What would we be surprised to find in Robert Garven's record collection?
CU: Actually, the more radical the groove usually meant the harder the music. It actually works. Take out an album like Black Sabbath Master of Reality , the heavy songs have the rough grooves the mellow ones are devoid of any swiggles. The needle has to ride the groove to produce the music and the more movement the more music. What is funny is that I have learned to appreciate other styles of music as I have matured. I did see “Earth Wind & Fire” at the California Jam in 1974!!! We also did a remake of Arthur Brown's “Fire”, which was more psychedelic, but he had a funky streak I think.
DC: I think it's very clear that classical music has always had an important role in Cirith Ungol 's development- while Frost & Fire was clearly blues-based, by the time King Of The Dead came around Jerry's solos were obviously derived largely from neo-classical scales, and songs were written in a much more unorthodox minor key fashion. The acoustic melody the ends and closes “Finger Of Scorn”, as well, has a distinctive whiff of medieval folk to it. How responsible were you for this metamorphosis? When did the band collectively decide that they no longer wanted to do blues-based songs?
CU: “Finger of Scorn” was one of our original pre “Frost & Fire” songs, which Greg wrote. I do remember humming out my versions and changes to riffs to the band and making some pretty major additions and or modifications but I cannot remember which songs I had the most influence on. I think the confusion lies with “Frost & Fire”, which we wrote to get noticed and popular and so it was intentionally all of our most accessible or radio friendly or commercial songs. We wrote and played heavier songs before and after but that album was meant to launch our career. Unfortunately it was considered too heavy by the radio stations in LA, and though it did receive much underground and college airplay it was not apparently what we needed to succeed. After Greg left we said well, why try to appease an audience that we were to heavy for anyway so we made a conscious effort to make the next album much heavier and gloomier.
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DC: I have always thought that One Foot IN Hell was/is a great record, but it is not even close to being on the same level as the first two as far as I'm concerned. Really, I think the album exhibits a much straighter, much more reserved style of playing and composition compared to the first two masterpieces. You play much more in the pocket, as does Flint, and while Jerry's leads still spill over everything, the songs are a lot more conventionally “epic heavy metal” and less wild/reckless/extroverted/fill-intensive. What led to the band pursuing a more straightforward, restrained direction? To my mind, this album ALMOST (and I mean almost) sounds dated, it bears some of the hallmarks of ‘80s epic metal of the time. Was this a period when Cirith Ungol felt like they needed to fit in a little bit more, or?
CU: The problem with One Foot in Hell is that Brian Slagel who owned Metal Blade Records wanted to take a large role in the production of the album. I think this was the beginning of where the band started to lose control of our vision and it is evident in this record. There were solos left out or changed, and multi tiered vocals ala Styx “Serpent is Rising” that were removed. I also did not like the final mix. We also recorded the tracks in LA, whereas with the first two albums we recorded them across the street from our band studio, so we had less time and were in a strange location, which did not help the sound or mood. Brian to this day does not like me and I suppose his feelings toward me, which I have tried to unsuccessfully patch up over the years, was taken out on the band. This again probably was my personality, negatively affecting the bands success which I will never forgive my self for. I am not a poser or bull-shitter so I guess it was hard for me to be something I wasn't. I was always bugging the record companies to do stuff for the band and I think they saw me as a pest. I think they we all pretty short sighted as we could have been as big a commercial success as lets say Metallica, with the proper promotion. Money = Promotion, Promotion = Success. Once the head of Enigma hid in a closet because he thought I was there. I have a clear conscience as all I tried to do was promote the band and our music. On the other hand as all the guys we dealt with the exception of Metal Blade in Europe seemed pretty unscrupulous and I am going easy on them. I know we have been ripped off for allot of money over the years, but I made the decision that as long as the albums or CD's were available that the money did not matter. Once again it comes down to greed vs. integrity. I think we always tried to take the high road.
DC: Obviously, one of the prime contributors to the vile and despotic atmosphere of King Of The Dead are the oppressively SLOW rhythms that dominate some of the numbers. What made Cirith Ungol decide to play at such an indolent pace, particularly since bands like Venom and Motörhead were bulldozing forwards at an amphetamine-imbibing speed?
CU: Maybe it was the amphetamines they were taking! J Seriously the pounding rhythms we wrote were what we felt. This was our roots and we were not going to jump on what I considered an overnight fad (Speed metal) at the time. To me heavy is pounding, beating, throbbing like a heart pounding in your chest. And yes, the heart speeds up and so did our songs. If you heart pounded as fast as some of the speed metal songs you would have a heart attack and die! I think the rhythmic pounding is akin to the Native African or American drumbeats, which is where I feel I got allot of my hereditary drumming thought from. Kind of like Cthulhu sending dream messages to his minions, I was receiving these beats from my prehistoric Neolithic ancestors.
Cirith UngolDC: Do you think bad press was crucial in hindering Cirith Ungol from more substantial commercial success? Consistently bad press did wonders for the likes of Hellhammer, Sodom, Venom, Death, Bathory among other bands, and of course Black Sabbath had their share of nemeses in the press. Surely the extremely polar reviews must have helped to cultivate the lore and legendry of Cirith Ungol ? Do you have any recollections of especially harsh reviews? What did reviewers usually take issue with (I suspect it would be Tim's vocals?)?
CU: That is technically incorrect. The editor of “Kerrang” magazine had us on his top ten list for King of the Dead . We had numerous good write-ups in the LA newspapers. The LA Times said that the song “Alive” by “Pearl Jam” was a blatant rip-off of Cirith Ungol's “I'm Alive”. In Ventura we had several big articles including a font page, section two, full page write up on the band. Many other articles over the years are the same. When they re-released our first 3 cd's in Europe on Metal Blade Germany, they sent me press packs from all over the world with 3 & 4 page full color articles on a band that had been dead over ten years!
DC: I know that you're probably not into a lot of the more extreme metal that comes out nowadays, but I'm sure it must make you quite proud to know that bands that are as influential as Celtic Frost, Hellhammer, Darkthrone (Norwegian black metal legends), Death SS have all namedropped Cirith Ungol on multiple occasions. I think it's very interesting that Cirith Ungol has had such an enduring influence on all dark, foreboding metal. Does this knowledge, in any way, make up for the anguish you have experienced at the hands of Cirith Ungol 's dissolution? For, though Cirith Ungol may not have had as long of a life as you had hoped, the band's immortality is virtually assured at this point.
CU: This is all very humbling and makes me feel once again that my life was not completely wasted. That we had had some positive effect on someone or their career is very fulfilling.
DC: You have spoken in various other interviews that the release of Servants Of Chaos was the proverbial last straw (sorry for using such a corny maxim!) that really severed and estranged you from several members of the band. Could you speak a bit more about this? I must applaud you for your dedication in re-releasing the remaining Cirith Ungol tracks, and I thank you on behalf of everyone who has given the record innumerable spins since its release.
CU: I think some of the members think I am somehow making money off the band, which of course is ridiculous. I had over $100,000 in receipts I spent on the band before we broke up. I borrowed the money from my parents to record “King of the Dead”, which I paid back. At one point I paid the band rent of two of the band members for over a year. I could go on and on but what purpose would it serve. Suffice to say I helped support the band for more than 20 years, physically, mentally and monetarily. The only money we got to release Servants of Chaos went to the mastering lab, the few hundred dollars we had left over Greg and I agreed to send to Michael Whelan. In fact Greg and I spent some of our own money to get the project out and as soon as we signed the contract with Metal Blade it had a hidden clause in it that combined all the other re-release royalties guaranteeing that we would never make a cent on the deal. On a lighter note royalties that were made on Servants of Chaos were supposed to be deducted from the monies owed on the re-releases but never were. I contacted Metal Blade and Brian said he would look into it. I never heard back from them. People asked me if I was upset that bootleg albums existed of some of our material. My reply has been that since we have never made any money from our legitimate record companies why should we be upset at someone who would promote our music by releasing a bootleg?
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DC: Of course, Cirith Ungol fans unanimously agree that Paradise Lost is a mere husk of what used to be an absolutely glorious band. Yet, the pre-production demos of Paradise Lost suggest that the album could have been absolutely as good, or even better, than One Foot In Hell . Could we revisit the tumultuous days of Paradise Lost and recount just why the album turned out the way it did? I understand that, following the disastrous management issues that ensued with the release of Paradise Lost , the band dissolved and you vowed to never play the drums again, as you were disenchanted and disillusioned with the music industry. This, of course, is a promise that you have kept to this day. Does the prospect of creating new music not haunt you, though? How have you managed to smother that hunger for the past 15 odd years?
CU: The events have left a bad taste in my mouth. I have briefly alluded to them above. Bottom line is the longer we were a band the less control we had over our released music. This caused deterioration in the product and our morale as a band leading to the final debacle that was “Paradise Lost”! It is very sad as I think we had a few more great albums. If Jerry, Flint and Jimmy had not chose to abandon the cause who knows what might have happened. At least Tim stayed till the bitter end, unfortunately he is the band member I have the least contact with and the one whom I was probably closest to. Greg and Perry wanted me to play some role in Falcon but I politely abstained.
DC: I have read that Tim Baker was not your original singer, and that he was but one of your roadies who was fortuitously discovered following the departure of your first singer, whom you had every intent of recording an album with. How different would Cirith Ungol have been without the outrageous pipes of Tim? Really, I think many fortunate things happened to distinguish Cirith Ungol as an iconic band- the brilliant covers, the breathtaking synchronicity of the band (the live bootlegs of the band reflect that in terms of musicianship and pure chemistry, Cirith Ungol was absolutely the best heavy metal band of the ‘80s), three flawless albums, the discovery of Tim, I just maintain that Cirith Ungol were ahead of their time.
CU: Our first singer was Neil Beattie and he was a great guy and a fantastic showman. I think that some of the music we created with him was pretty good and if you could hear it you would be surprised how good it was. Although I could not imagine the band without Tim, parting with Neil was especially painful as we did it for our career, with little sensitivity to him at the time, which I now regret. We had a lot of fun together.
Cirith UngolDC: As musicians, I think Cirith Ungol were absolutely in the highest tier. Listening to your live performances, the degree of chemistry is absolutely staggering….which prompts one to ask, how often did Cirith Ungol practice to develop that sort of understanding with one another? How much improvisation would go into a typical Cirith Ungol performance (I know from bootlegs that I have that some of Jerry's solos would change dramatically)?
CU: Like some of our earlier influences, Mountain especially comes to mind, the original band played together for many years and was very comfortable with some onstage and practice improvisations. Later on as our music got more complicated and the band had spent less seat time together this was more a rarity. However the high point was when Greg & Jerry would do some grueling battling guitar solo's, usually ending up with scraping guitar fretboards, general mayhem and resulting in the defacing of some rare guitars. We would always go out with a bang and our climatic endings were a special favorite of mine. I would usually save the drum solo for last and pour ever last ounce of energy into a frantic beat down broadside, culminating in a devastating powerhouse blowout!!! Come to think of it, it would always end that way!!!
Diabolical Conquest (Nin Chan): I think it is very admirable that you always took Cirith Ungol very seriously, that you invested so many years of toil into maintaining the band in the face of considerable odds. You can take heart, I think, in the fact that Cirith Ungol are finally starting to get their just due. I do wish I could thank you in person, I am very sincere about my devotion and adoration of the band, and cannot really imagine life without the first two masterpieces. Please use this space to say anything you feel hasn't been expressed in this interview, and I wish you the best of luck with any of your future endeavors, Robert. Thanks!
Cirith Ungol (Robert): I appreciate your wanting to due an interview with an aging leftover from a previous era. I am proud that our music still has an effect on listeners and am gratified by all the accolades and support we have received since the band's untimely demise. I just wish that we could have been able to tough it out a little longer, ensuring some commercial success which would have allowed us the freedom to create more substantive music. However everything must end and at least Cirith Ungol did not end up being a parody of its former self as some bands I will not mention have. Please visit one of our official or unofficial websites, and please pick up the Cirith Ungol tribute CD if you get a chance, it is really good. Metal Blade Records have discontinued our CD's in the US, and they are available in Europe for an undetermined amount of time time so if anyone is interested in picking up one of our four available CD's now is the time. Rest assured that no money will go to the band, however once they are gone the are gone!
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"Dommed Planet" delivers with a very catchy chorus and some sure fire devilish guitar playing though the ending passage could have used a bit more ex-perimentation.-King Fowley, liner notes, Jan 2009
A thematic cousin to [Black Sabbath's] Electric Funeral....-Tim Baker, facebook comment, 12 Jan 2011
A metal label is probably named after this song. The label is called Doomed Planet Records and describes themself as "an underground mailorder label, specializing and dedicated to making vinyl only releases, in editions of 500 copies by cult 80's style traditional metal". The label was also supposed to release Falcon's debut album on vinyl, but unfortunately that vinyl never saw the lights of day. Cirith Ungol is listed as their second musical influence, only after Brocas Helm, on their MySpace-site. They also have a website. It was through Rob Preston of Doomed Planet Records that Perry Grayson discovered Cirith Ungol. Preston was also the guy who introduced Rob Garven to Perry Grayson, and Garven was in turn the guy who introduced Greg Lindstrom to Perry, which would be the beginning of Falcon. Although I have no confirmation that it is named after the band, I guess it's a good guess!
Lyrics
Trapped on a dying world a world too late to save
Mankind is on the move and he's marching to his grave
False prophets filled with greed leaders who rule by fear
By their lies they are betrayed and their message crystal clear
Chorus:
We're living on a doomed planet a planet too late to save
We're living on a doomed planet mankind's marching to his grave
Dark clouds foul the sky as the end is well at hand
The acid rain will fall sweeping death across the land
The poison rivers flow to a helpless dying sea
Of the wicked race of man this world will soon be free
Chorus
Trapped on a dying world, a world of hate and pain
The judgment has arrived and the verdict is insane
The masses cringe in fear for their sentence has arrived
May the punishment be slow and the guilty flayed alive
Written by Robert Garven
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a pessimistic view of how overzealous conservatives try to take away people’s inherent freedoms-Perry Grayson, Headache interview, 2005
Lyrics
Flying so low to the ground
Cynical view, the world gone wrong
Banished utopia laid to waste before its time
Heeds the worst case scene in his heathen ways
Got no use for a crutch
Solutions bring more questions to your mind
Answers never found
Chorus:
Given life, but born to die
Made to suffer, age and go blind
Given life, but left to die
We're all goners when doomsday's near
Slavin' and wastin' our time
Spinnin' the wheel at the same old grind
Taken for granted, trodden and trampled
Fake smiles hiding rage
Jealous masquerade on crooked paths
Will my task be done
When the noose is hung before I die
Chorus
Downer, doomsyer, downer
Downer, truth-seeker, downer
Solo - Perry
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I think of Edge of a Knife as our Rockabilly Song. Ha! Don't forget the solo in this song is great!-Robert Garven, Steel Conjuring interview, 2000
It seems I'm always frustratedWritten by Greg Lindstrom
When I should be satisfied
But as long as I'm frustrated
I know I'm still alive
I've got 20/20 hindsight
But I won't live in the past
I like to look up at the sky
When I'm flat on my ass
Edge of a knife, edge of a knife
Maybe that's what they mean by real life
Edge of a knife, edge of a knife
Maybe that's what they mean by real life
I've got my rock 'n roll haircut
I've got my rock 'n roll jeans
Just to make me feel like
Someone I'd rather not be
I don't care if you laugh at me
It's better than beeing ignored
Anyway, I'm used to it
That's what fools are for
Edge of a knife, edge of a knife
Maybe that's what they mean by real life
Edge of a knife, edge of a knife
Maybe that's what they mean by real life
Edge of a knife, edge of a knife
Maybe that's what they mean by real life
Edge of a knife, edge of a knife
Maybe that's what they mean by real life
Maybe I gotta get hurt
Maybe that's what I need
'Cause I got music in my bloodstream
Sometimes I just can't seem to bleed
I don't care if you laugh at me
It't better than beeing ignored
Anyway, I'm used to it
That's what fools are for
Edge of a knife, edge of a knife
Maybe that's what they mean by real life
Edge of a knife, edge of a knife
Maybe that's what they mean by real life
Edge of a knife, edge of a knife
Maybe that's what they mean by real life
Edge of a knife, edge of a knife
Maybe that's what they mean by real life
Edge of a knife, edge of a knife
Maybe that's what they mean by real life
Edge of a knife, edge of a knife
Maybe that's what they mean by real life
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I've been working on pre-production of one of my new tunes, "Elfland's Daughter", which was inspired by Lord Dunsany's fantasy novel The King of Elfland's Daughter. Lizzy influence on this one. Lots of Thin Lizzy influence on this one.-Perry Grayson, 19 Aug 2004
I've written my share of fantasy-inspired lyrics. Just look at "Elfland's Daughter" on Die Wontcha. It was inspired by fantasist Lord Dunsany's novel. Dunsany came before Tolkien even. I rank him higher than Tolkien! But for the past several years I've been penning more reality-based lines. That's just where my head's at. We've already talked about a lot of issues you get confronted with living in the 2000s. That's fuel to the fire.-Perry Grayson, 21 Jan 2009
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Bandinfo
Origin: Switzerland
Formed in: 1995
(german quote:) Wir sind relativ spät als Ersatz für eine andere Band eingesprungen, das Ganze musste vorallem schnell über die Bühne gehen. Die grössten Klassiker waren natürlich schon vergeben, aber "Heaven Help Us" finde ich persönlich eh einer der besten Cirith Ungol Tracks überhaupt. Wir haben diesen Track dann vorallem auch ausgewählt, weil er recht gut zu Emerald passt. Wir konnten da gut unseren Stempel drauf drücken und haben ganz Emerald-like viele Twin-Guitarparts eingebaut.-Michael Vaucher (guitarist), Metalstorm interview, 09 May 2005
We replaced another band relatively late, it all had to go fast over the stage. The greatest classics were naturally taken [by other bands], but personally I find "Heaven Help Us" to be one of the best Cirith Ungol tracks ever. We picked this song especially because it fits really good to Emerald. We could mark our signaturesound on it and built in many Emerald-like twin-guitars.
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Work on new material continues. Greg has a brand new tune (not an old Ungol song) called "Everything You Need To Know..."-Perry Grayson, 28 Sep 2004
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(Dec 79) We weren't sure whether to include this, as it's not really a typical CU song, but here it is. I like the solo riff.-Greg Lindstrom, linernotes
its just horribly lame..in my humble opinion..lol sounds like an outake from some early Cars session..-Tim Baker, 27 May 2012
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General
Perry Grayson founded this band together with Greg Lindstrom (one of the founding members of Cirith Ungol) and Darin McCloskey (Pale Divine) to make heavy rock in the style of the 70s. They're also doing some Cirith Ungol songs that never got properly recorded in a studio. Since Darin McCloskey lives far away, live performances are usually played with drummer Andrew Sample.
History
Falcon is a raw late 1960s/early 1970s style heavy rock power trio. Falcon was founded by Los Angeles area guitarist/vocalist Perry Grayson (ex-Destiny's End) and bassist/keyboardist Greg Lindstrom (Cirith Ungol) in 2002. Drummer Darin McCloskey (Pennsylvania's Pale Divine) came into the fold in 2003. Falcon recorded a 4 song demo in Spring '03, which received rave reviews from the hard rock and metal press in both the U.S. and Europe. The band recorded their debut album in '03 and it was released in August '04. Local drummer Andrew "Drewcifer" Sample was brought in to serve as Falcon's live drummer in L.A. in '04. Perry had the name Falcon in mind for a bluesy/psychedelic heavy rock band ever since his early days of playing. Hooking up with Greg Lindstrom in 2002 gave Perry the means to get things moving finally.
Greg Lindstrom was a founding member of Cirith Ungol (1971-1982), and he played on their debut LP, FROST & FIRE ('80) and wrote material for KING OF THE DEAD ('84) and ONE FOOT IN HELL
('86). Greg started out on bass in Cirith Ungol, eventually switching
over to guitar and keyboard (alongpage the late guitar wizard Jerry
Fogle, R.I.P.). Incidentally, although the bass on FROST & FIRE was
credited to Michael "Flint" Vujea, Greg actually played all the bass on
that album. Greg also played additional lead guitar on the debut Falcon
disc and DIE WONTCHA. Some of Greg's early work with Cirith Ungol can be heard on the two disc collection SERVANTS OF CHAOS.
Perry Grayson was in metal band Destiny's End (1997-2000), playing on and writing tunes for both Metal Blade Records releases (BREATHE DEEP THE DARK and TRANSITION). Perry's travels with Destiny's End included a U.S. tour with Iced Earth and Nevermore in '99 and a European tour with Sacred Steel, Wardog and The Lord Weird Slough Feg. The high point being a set at the illustrious Wacken Open Air Festival in Germany (August '99). After leaving Destiny's End in '00, Perry helped form Artisan with his friends Mike Bear (bass/vocals) and Ana Greco (guitar/vocals). In Artisan, Perry shared vocal duties with Bear and Greco, opting for an aggressive style similar to Chuck Schuldiner (Death), Darren Travis (Sadus) and Rob Urbinati (Sacrifice). While still in Artisan, Perry had already begun setting Falcon's wheels in motion. Perry played his last gig with Artisan at the Whisky in Hollywood supporting Cathedral in September '03, but he remains best of friends with the band. Bepages Destiny's End, Artisan and Falcon, Perry has also recorded with Isen Torr, a New Wave of British Heavy Metal flavored project consisting of members from the U.S., England and Germany. Isen Torr, incidentally, is spearheaded by Perry's English guitarist pal Rich Walker (Solstice). In '05 Perry was touring bassist for Pale Divine on their European tour with Place of Skulls and Rising Dust.
Darin McCloskey founded Pennsylvania doom metal merchants Pale Divine around 1997. Apage from his dynamic drumming, he also pens lyrics for Pale Divine. Darin's travels with Pale Divine included a couple of appearances at the Stoner Hands of Doom Festival in the States and tours in Europe & the U.S. with Place of Skulls ('04 and '05) . Perry got in touch with Darin after going nuts for Pale Divine's first demo, CRIMSON TEARS, in '97. A die-hard fan of Pale Divine, Perry knew Darin was precisely the right man for the job of drummer in Falcon. Darin has played on both Falcon's full-length studio outings and played a historic Falcon gig in L.A. with San Francisco metallers Slough Feg.
Falcon's Los Angeles-based live drummer from '03 to early '06 was Andrew "Drewcifer" Sample. Sample moved to Kansas in spring '06, but remains very active in metal and rock as a DJ and writing for Metal Maniacs. As much a maniac for heavy '70s rock as the rest of the Falcon members, Andrew was a shoe-in for the job. If not for Andrew, Falcon wouldn't have started gigging in L.A. in early '04. And thanks to Andrew, Falcon managed to play shows alongpage Fireball Ministry, Earthride, Sasquatch, Shakey Mallard, Slough Feg, Smoke, Weedeater and Butcher.
Falcon completed work on their second album, DIE WONTCHA over a week period in October '06. DIE WONTCHA was released on May 6th, 2008.
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Here is the song with the same name as the band.
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Falcon's version of the classic Cirith Ungol song is now for the first time available in a proper studio version. The song can be heard on Falcon's fanpage at Facebook.
Update: Now also available at ReverbNation.
It's a little taste of the future Falcon rarities collection. Engineered by yours truly in the Falcon rehearsal room in Downtown L.A., late '05 with vocals and lead guitar overdubs in early '06. Mixed by me and Greg Lindstrom. Drums on this one courtesy of Andrew Sample. Enjoy!
-Perry Grayson, 13 Oct 2010
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Opening tune from Falcon's March 14, 2004 gig at Spaceland in Silverlake, CA. "Route 666," one of bassist Greg Lindstrom's "lost" Cirith Ungol classics. Enjoy! ;)-Perry Grayson, 14 nov 2010
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Falcon performing the "lost" Cirith Ungol tune "Shelob's Lair" (written by Greg Lindstrom circa 1975) during their second gig ever on March 4, 2004.
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Greg Lindstrom playing a cover of his own song! The song was originally written for Cirith Ungol in the 1970's, but not released until 2004 with Greg's new band, Falcon.
Credits
"Shelob's Lair" - special extended remix of the version from self-titled
Falcon CD
Additional recording and mixing by Perry Grayson
Additional keys: Greg Lindstrom
Spoken word: Perry Grayson
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A fiery rendition of my tune "The Crying of Lot 246," off the self-titled Falcon album. This is from the gig we did with Earthride at Spaceland on Mar. 14, 2004.-Perry Grayson, 29 Oct 2010
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We demoed one of Greg's songs, "Bad Scene" a while back, and I laid down vox for it a coupla weeks ago.-Perry Grayson, 10 Aug 2004
The six songs we recorded in March with Andrew Sample on drums are nearly done. We did the basic tracks live—that's the ONLY way to record Falcon—of course. A few overdubs to finish up, then it's mixing time. The six tunes are: "Throwback", "Downer," "Everything There is To Know," "Edge of a Knife" (Cirith Ungol), "Bad Scene" and "Johanna" (an Iggy & the Stooges cover). The reason behind doing "Throwback" and "Downer" again is 'cause Andrew and Darin play the tunes different than each other. So, we thought we'd give you a chance to hear what those sound like with Andrew drumming.-Perry Grayson, 19 Jul 2006 In Addition are Throwback Demo (October 2003) and Pre-Production Demos (Oct. 2003) with unknown contents listed in Perry's bio.
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I've been writing new tunes and dusting off old previously unrecorded ones that I'll be demoing and sending to Greg and Darin soon for our eventual third album. Since we've recorded twice on the east coast, I see no reason why we can't repeat that again. Greg and I met up in L.A. while I was there visiting in October. He showed me some of his new material and I showed him a bit of mine. There are definitely enough tunes for a third Falcon album. The plan is for both of us to pound out some rough demos. Pretty much the same way we've always worked. Along with a third Falcon album the three of us would love to do some gigs. It'll just take a cool festival offer and possibly hooking up with another rawkin' band or two for a brief couple of weeks. Thanks again, Chris, for a great marathon rambling session!-Perry Grayson, 21 Jan 2009
We aim to record another album in the near future and hopefully do a couple of weeks in Europe and perhaps a handful of U.S. dates too. The distance thing shouldn’t affect us too much beyond making it harder to play local SoCal gigs.-Perry Grayson
We’re working on a new batch of songs now, plus we have a few demos we recorded in our rehearsal room a couple of years ago with Andrew Sample on drums that some folks might like to hear, like our version of “Johanna” by Iggy & the Stooges.-Greg Lindstrom
At the moment my good pals Greg Lindstrom, Darin McCloskey and I are working on pre-production for the third Falcon album. I've also been in touch with recording engineer Chris Kozlowski, and he will again be on-board to make sure the vintage vibes are preserved in the studio. More news comin' at you soon. Stay tuned!!-Perry Grayson, 18 May 2010
Perry, Greg and I got together in LA a few months ago to rehearse new Falcon material and it was a blast! So plans are absolutely in the works for a new Falcon album…probably in 2012. In the meantime I believe Svart recs. will be releasing the vinyl version of “Die Wontcha” very soon.-Darin McCloskey interview 22 Feb 2012
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"There won't be any embossed foil stamping on the 2nd pressing of the S/T. Too expensive now that I no longer work in the graphics/printing biz."-Perry Grayson.
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Where do I get a Falcon patch??
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Metal Coven Records in Germany are talking to us right now about the possibility of releasing a 7" split single with one page from the British band Triarchy, and one page of Falcon material. Probably "Shelob's Lair" when it's re-recorded.-Perry 19 Aug 2003
Falcon is currently selecting a song to cover for The Miskatonic Foundation's TRIBUTE TO THE NEW WAVE OF BRITISH HEAVY METAL compilation.-Perry Grayson, 10 Sep 2003
We're talking to Metal Coven Records (Germany) about the possibility of a Falcon/Ogre split 7" single for you vinyl maniacs out there.-Perry Grayson, 08 Mar 2004
The self-titled debut album was planned to be released on vinyl, first on Doomed Planet Records. Unfortunately, it never found it's way to the vinyl.-Perry Grayson, The Forgotten Scroll interview
Falcon NEEDS to be on vinyl. No question about it! This style of music just has to be played LOUD on a turntable. But it also has to come out on CD, 'cause most people don't even own a turntable. But I'll be very disappointed if it doesn't get the vinyl treatment, with a nice gatefold cover.
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Greg Lindstrom, Darin McCloskey and I [Perry] gathered in L.A. in late November to work on songs for the third full-length album. We recorded basic tracks for three demos, and I'll be overdubbing vocals and lead guitar soon. We're excited about the new tunes, and hope to convene Stateside later in the year to record the real deal.-09 Mar 2012
Today we received the digital preview of the gatefold for the DIE WONTCHA LP from Svart. After a few changes it should be good to go! Once we get the inner sleeve (lyrics, liners, thanks, etc.), we'll have a few more changes to make. We're really looking forward to this puppy finally being released on wax! More news to come soon...-02 Apr 2012
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Lyrics
Music: Cirith Ungol Lyrics: Tim BakerMoving toward the evil song that fate will sadly sing.
How the pride of man has fallen, crowning lust their only king
Heaven screams in anguish and the world cries out in pain.
Unleash the final terror- man begins his now doomed reign.
False prophets spread their cursed rule across the poisoned land,
Why must we always choose to put our fate in reckless hands?
Fingers poised on Armageddon, dare they make the fatal move,
And send this dying planet hurling headlong to the tomb.
Broken leaders mark the twisted path that mankind chose.
Final judgement is upon us, vengeance rains its fearful blows.
So we hurl our prayers toward heaven, surely they will heed the call -
But soulless skies just echo with the screams of mankind s fall.
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This is from the same session as above. Once again this song stands head and shoulders above the version on 'Paradise Lost', as we had no artistic control on that album at all. The intro, ending and gnarly panned guitars were my idea!-Robert Garven, linernotes
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These tracks were done on a Teac 3340 4-track deck and originally had better lead and background vocals, which are missing now. To the best of my recollection we erased the vocals and recorded only Tim's leads for practice for this album that could have been our best if we had not been screwed on the whole thing. I thought I had thrown them away when the band broke up in despair, they are presented here for your enjoyment. I know this is on this disc twice but I did not want to break up the original trio. This is the mighty Flint playing Bass and Jimmy playing the amazing leads.-Robert Garven, linernotes
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Here is a music video for Monstrum's Cirith Ungol cover of Fallen Idols. The video is a collection of various skydive clips. Created by Cirith Ungol's guitarist Jim Barraza.
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(Sept 78) Rob gets naming credit for this one.-Greg Lindstrom
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Greg and I met in 1971 and we instantly hit it off as we both had a love for sports cars, especially Ferrari's! This is a friend's car (Gary Reed) on a dyno. What other engine can compare to a Ferrari? The answer is none!!!!!-Robert Garven, linernotes
As you might already know I am not only a huge Ferrari fan I follow F1 and am a loyal Tifosi!! One of the first times Greg Lindstrom and I got together we went to the LA auto show to see the new Ferrari's. We were very young about 12 or 13. The fire of the red religion burns in me. I think there is a definite relationship between the screaming of the engine, the sucking of the carburetors and the throbbing and pulsing of True Metal!!!!! I was hoping that if the band was successful I could have a huge stable of them, however I had to quit the band and get a regular job to afford even one! I have a 1975 Dino 308 gt4. If you listen real close, you can hear me racing in the hills above Ventura, winding through the gears, blasting metal as I downshift into the next corner!!! I am very sorry Eddie lost, but I know Michael will carry the torch of the faithful next year........ My life was full of two passions, now that my passion for music has been ripped from my breast... I have immersed myself in the red blood of Ferrari!!!!-Robert Garven, That's Metal 1/99
I am and have been an enormous fan of Ferrari since the age of 11! Racing and cars were an inspiration and theme for several of our songs over the years. I originally started talking to Greg, as he and I were fellow auto enthusiasts at a young age. I was really hoping that if the band got big one of my dreams was buy many Ferrari’s as I feel that they are not only cars but also works of art. I now consider myself very lucky to have just one red 1975 Dino 308 gt4. I am not wealthy yet I managed to get married (no kids) and buy a small house and own a classic Ferrari. (Not bad for a failed rock musician!) I do all the work on it myself as a hobby and this summer I performed a major engine service. There are many things I do not like about our country, but for some reason the car is king here and there are many affordable Ferrari’s! Where I live in Southern California it hardly rains or gets cold so it is the perfect environment to own and drive a car as this. Although we do not have the Autobahn, unfortunately! I do not have much money but I do have my priorities!-Robert Garven, Metal Heart 12/2000 interview
Well don't get me started! I was attracted to Ferrari as a child, being born on the same day that Dino Ferrari died in Italy 50 years ago. I remember the first time I saw a Ferrari in San Francisco, I was around 11 at the time. I remember getting down on my hands and knees in front of it looking at the prancing horse badge and thinking that this is the most beautiful thing I have ever seen. Many Ferraristi have similar stories. It is funny as we have some popularity in Italy and I have a love for all things Italian. I even have a Roman soldiers outfit that I wear around sometimes! My main love is the sound of the engines. The heart of every Ferrari is the engine and unless you have been in a 12 cylinder Ferrari at 8000 rpm redline there is no way to explain the mechanical symphony produced. My Dino is only an 8 cylinder but it has 4 double throat Weber carburetors and it has its own scream which I an enamored with. At night flames shoot out of the exhaust pipes! Actually many rocker and drummers have a love for the cars, as they are the pinnacle of automotive achievement! Period!-Robert Garven, Diabolical Conquest interview
Yes, even though the band was not a commercial success I am most proud that we have many fans still in Italy. I am an original tifoso, starting at age 11 to worship the red religion (Ferrari). I love everything Italian and an honored that there are some people in Italy which like the music we wrote. If you look at an original vinyl copy of our first record “Frost & Fire” the words “for Enzo” are scratched into every record. That about sums up my feelings.-Robert Garven, Guardians of Fate 3/02
There have been many marques in automobile's history, but Ferrari stands alone above all as pinnacle of achievement, a testament to Italian artistry, craftsmanship and engineering. Every other car is well just another car, but every Ferrari has 5000 race victories behind it. You can ride "The Black Machine", however I prefer the red one! :-P-Robert Garven's blog, 18 nov 2006
The heart of every Ferrari is its engine, and the sound of a Ferrari engine at full song is like a mechanical symphony!
Forza Ferrari!!
Bounanotte
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Singer Tim Baker was always loathed by many critics for his overly raw vocal delivery, but without Tim's evil delivery tracks like "Finger Of Scorn" just wouldn't have worked. While the band sets the mood Tim sets the intensity while pulling out and grabbing from within his soul meaningful words slike "the beast will rule the hearts of man till mankind falls to rape again". A quite haunting yet beautifully faint guitar passage opens up "Finger..." and finds reprisal later on in the song, almost serving as "quiet time" for the listener to deeply think about just what Tim is saying. Disturbing material for sure.-King Fowley, liner notes
This song was written by Greg, even though he quit the band after the debut album. It is an excellent piece of music, and probably the closest thing to a ballad on the LP. “Finger of Scorn” was one of our original pre “Frost & Fire” songs, which Greg wrote.-Robert Garven, Diabolical Conquest interview
"Finger Of Scorn" was one of my songs that the band used with my blessing.-Greg Lindstrom, BallBuster interview
Tι σημαίνουν για σένα οι Dexter Ward και κατ’ επέκταση το heavy metal;-From an interview with Dexter Ward.
Οι Dexter Ward για μένα αυτή την στιγμή είναι η έξοδος μου από την καθημερινότητα και ένα καινούργιο όνειρο που θα κυνηγήσω από την αρχή μέχρι το τέλος χωρίς να έχω μεγάλες προσδοκίες, με μοναδικό γνώμονα το να περνάμε καλά. Όσο αναφορά το Heavy Metal θα σου συνοψίσω την απάντηση μου σε ένα τραγούδι, το “Finger Of Scorn” των θεών Cirith Ungol. Τα συναισθήματα που αναβλύζουν μέσα από τις νότες του είναι ίσως η τελειότερη μορφή τέχνης που έχει υπάρξει σε αυτό τον πλανήτη. Μνημείο πραγματικό για τις γενιές που θα ακολουθήσουν. Το Heavy Metal είναι το είδος μουσικής που έχει δημιουργήσει τα περισσότερα τραγούδια ανάλογου επιπέδου, οπότε δικαιωματικά έχει την μεγαλύτερη θέση στην καρδιά μου.
What they mean for you as Dexter Ward and hence the heavy metal;
The Dexter Ward for me right now is the output from my everyday life and a new dream to chase from beginning to end without having great expectations, only to be driven fun. The reference to the Heavy Metal I will summarize my answer to one song, "Finger Of Scorn" gods Cirith Ungol. The emotions that flow through the notes are probably the most perfect art form that has existed on this planet. Monument real for generations to come. The Heavy Metal is a genre that has created more songs similar level, so that rightfully has the highest place in my heart.
Lyrics
To see what lies beyond our sight.
The secrets robed in blackest night.
The things we dream, but never see.
Caged and blinded by the Beast.
From age to age it stalked the earth
The apish scum of evil birth
Up from slime it has seen man crawl
It waits to see our final fall
The Finger of Scorn! Points to us all!
The Finger of Scorn! Points!
Black idols lie, beneath the sea
They hold the secrets of our destiny
The ancient tales are left to die
And leave mankind to wonder why
The Finger of Scorn! Points to us all!
The Finger of Scorn! Points! to our fall!!
*solo by Jerry Fogle*
The beast will rule the hearts of men
'Till mankind falls to ape again
And when our souls are stripped and torn
Still we face the Finger of Scorn!
Written by Greg Lindstrom
One of my alltime favourite Ungolsongs. Simply awesome!
Yep! Great Song and amazing performances!
this is probably my fave Ungol song ever. It really brings me to tears, it's an incredible depiction of mankind's greatest fears, yet it's charming and beautiful. Jerry's solo is something beyond human, the arpeggios are mindblowing. What a song.
this is probably my fave Ungol song ever. It really brings me to tears, it's an incredible depiction of mankind's greatest fears, yet it's charming and beautiful. Jerry's solo is something beyond human, the arpeggios are mindblowing. Tim's voice is probably at its top. What a song.
as a young metalhead in the mid to late 80's my best friend and i would listen to this record over and over.
i have not heard this particular track in nearly 25 years....it's even better than i remember. i'm currently playing it on youtube whilst scouring ebay for a copy of the record.
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To commemorate the fine 30th Anniversary of metal’s most venerable and storied label, Metal Blade Records, the writers of BraveWords.com have gotten their metalheads together and come up with a list of the Top 30 coolest, most legendary, rockingest, most influential, most deserving of fame and notoriety, releases founder/CEO Brian Slagel and crew have issued since forging the fire way back in mom’s garage in 1982. As has become tradition ‘round here, we are presenting them – through January and February – in reverse order, leading eventually to the penultimate slab of iron ever to carry an esteemed Metal Blade catalogue number.Source: http://www.bravewords.com/news/176941 New poll: Vote for best track on King of ther Dead here!
By Greg Pratt
Man, history has not been kind to Californian heavy metallers CIRITH UNGOL—NO ONE has been kind to Cirith Ungol—but take a listen to One Foot In Hell to get a glimpse of a truly unique band. Cool to see them place on this list at all, those histrionic vocals, the overdramatic songwriting, and general metal-’til-fucking-death being a bit too OTT for even some diehard metal types, the band toiling, toiling, toiling, silent, forgotten, back again for quick reunion, underwhelming, silent, forgotten… but for brief moments of time way back when—like during One Foot In Hell’s duration—Cirith Ungol were doing everything perfectly.
UPDATE
The concert can be seen at Youtube. Here is the first part.
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Here are two of three songs by Cirith Ungol tribute band Finger of Scorn's first ever live show. They were played live as warmup for Heir Apparent. They were played Kyttaro Live Club, Athens Greece, 12 Jan 2012. The third missing song is Blood and Iron.
freakin awesome!!
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We also did a remake of Arthur Brown's “Fire”, which was more psychedelic, but he had a funky streak I think.-Robert Garven, Diabolical Conquest interview
We had always liked the Arthur Brown song and we wanted to do a remake. This song was destroyed in the final mix down. It had this really great bass line in D running all throughout the song somehow it got mixed totally out of the song. It is really a shame because this was what made the song really heavy!!-Robert Garven
Lyrics
Music & Lyrics: Arthur Brown, Vincent Crane, Mike Finesilver and Peter KerI am the God of Hell Fire and I'll bring you
Fire
I'll take you to burn
Fire
I'll take to learn
I'll see you burn
You fought hard and you saved and earned
But all the things got to burn
Out your mind your tiny mind
You know you've really been so blind
Now's your time burn your mind
You fall apart went far behind
Oh no Oh no Oh no
You gonna burn
Fire
To destroy all you've done
Fire
To end all you've become
I'll feel you burn
You've been living like a little girl
In the middle of your little world
Into flames you turn your mind
You know you've really been so blind
Now's your time fool your mind
You 're falling far to far behind
Oooh
Fire
To destroy all you've done
Fire
To end all you've become
You gonna burn
You gonna burn
You gonna burn
You gonna burn
Burn, burn, burn, burn, burn, burn, burn, burn, burn
Whhaaaaa
Fire
I'll take you to burn
Fire
I'll take you to learn
Fire
I'll take you to bed
Fire
To destroy all you've done
Fire
To end all you've become
Fire
I'll take you to burn
I'll see you burn
Destroy all you've [?]
Fire
Fire
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This is a different, but way better version of our remake of Arthur Browns great song, than the version which appeared on 'Paradise Lost'. We had two managers who ripped us off and never paid for this recording. It was donated by Jeff at Goldmine Studios. If we have not have had a producer on our fourth album, they all would have sounded this good!-Robert Garven, linernotes
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German metalzine featuring an interview with Rob and Greg.
GREG: My Monkees infatuation (see #2) didn’t last too long before I started getting into the Yardbirds, Jefferson Airplane, and Cream. Rob and I met in 7th grade and instantly became friends. He and Jerry Fogle and Pat Galligan (who later joined punk band The Angry Samoans) decided to start a band to play Beatles songs, and I think the only reason they got me was that I had an amp. We called ourselves Titanic. Three guitars plugged into one 15 watt amp and Rob with just a snare drum and hi-hat trying to play Beatles songs...I wish I had a tape! Anyway, Rob and Jerry and I wanted to play heavier stuff like Cream and Mountain, so we left Titanic to sink, and the three of us formed Cirith Ungol in 1972.
2. With what age did you start singing/playing an instrument and what was the
reason to do so?
GREG: I
started taking piano lessons when I was around seven or eight due to
parental pressure. Then I saw the Monkees (!) on TV and I knew I had
to play guitar. Either that or tambourine! I got the tambourine
first………………..
3. What are your 5 all time-favorite records?
GREG: It’s hard to pick just five: CAPTAIN BEYOND’s first, ANGEL’s first, BLACK SABBATH-Heaven And Hell, SCORPIONS-In Trance, HARD STUFF-Bullet Proof, MONTROSE’s first, Y & T-Earthshaker, MASTERS OF THE AIRWAVES’ first (and only), BE BOP DELUXE-Futurama, STRAY DOG’s first, BLUE OYSTER CULT-Tyranny And Mutation. Sorry, I went to eleven.
ROB: Mine would be MOURNIN “NIGHT SUN”, LUCIFERS FRIEND #1, QUEENSRYCHE “OPERATION MINDCRIME”, RUSH #1, BLACK SABBATH “MASTER OF REALITY”, STYX “EQUINOX”.
Tell us the 3 last records/CDs you bought, that really thrilled you!
GREG: I’ve been buying a lot of stoner/doom type stuff lately, like the new Nebula and Roachpowder albums. My favorite new CDs are Pete Way’s (UFO bassist) solo album, which is like a harder, punkier UFO. Pete can’t sing his way out of a paper bag, but he’s got attitude! I also like The Quill, a Swedish band who sound like Badlands with Jon Lord on organ, and the new Cult album is great, much to my surprise.
ROB: I actually don’t buy records or CD’s but Greg and the record company send me some from time to time. I really liked Riots last album.
5. Please give us a discography of all bands you played with and all your releases and about how many copies each title were sold!
GREG: That’s easy. Two bands: Titanic and CU. Titanic did not release any albums (believe me, you wouldn’t want to hear it, anyway), and CU released five, including our new Servants Of Chaos 2CD set. The first four albums have sold in the range of 20,000-25,000 copies each.
6. Looking back: Which of your releases do you like the most and why?
GREG: Frost And Fire and King Of The Dead are my
favorites. KOTD is CU’s classic. The production is 100% heavier
than on Frost And Fire. I thought the songs on One Foot In Hell were
not quite as good. Of course, I’m partial to F & F, I just wish
we could have gotten a heavier sound on the album, but we were on a
very limited budget and we were all still learning how to use the
studio. The sound I imagined in my head was much heavier.
7. And which the least/why?
GREG: Looking at the album as an outsider, I think Paradise Lost is a very inconsistent album. It has got some of the best stuff CU has ever done (The Chaos trilogy) and the worst (The Troll and the truly vile Go It Alone). Even though Jimmy Barraza is a fantastic guitar player, I feel that he lacks a certain spark of uniqueness that made Jerry so great. And I really prefer Tim's higher pitched vocals on the earlier albums.
ROB: I have to agree with Greg, although he was luckily not in the band “Paradise Lost” was like a nightmare I have never awaken from. We were totally screwed by the record company and the producer took away all of the control and I think destroyed the entire project. If you listen to the version we did of “Fallen Idols” on the new CD I think you can get a feel for what the entire Paradise Lost CD should have sounded like. The sad part of the whole sordid affair is that Restless never meant to do anything to promote the record at all, so I think if we could have made the CD the way we wanted it probably would have been more successful and we would still be together today. Restless to this day refuses to license the record for who knows what reaseon even though at least 3 different companies have shown an interest in re-releasing it!
8. Did your band record songs that have never been released? Please give us the song-titles and a short description!
GREG: I don’t know where to start! We have at least 20 songs that have never been properly recorded. Route 666, Flesh Dart, Brutish Manchild and Shelob's Lair come to mind, all typical Ungol songs with odd riffs, plodding rythmns, pretentious lyrics, and over-long solos (ha!).
ROB: How about “Show You All”, Tight Teen”, “Half Past Human, a Quarter to Ape”,
“Crack of Dawn”
9. What was the highlight of your career?
GREG: I can’t remember the highlights! The best things were coming up with a new song and playing it together for the first time, playing on stage for an appreciative crowd, and meeting our fans. The worst things were dealing with greedy promoters, club owners, and some of our rival bands.
ROB: My highlight was opening up for well known bands and blowing them off the stage with our incredible wall of sound.
10. Tell us a funny story around your band from the past!
GREG: There was the time Richie Blackmore came to see us play at the Starwood club in L.A., and one of our roadies spilled his beer on Richie’s head and all over his nice velvet jacket. Richie wasn’t too pleased!
11. Are you a metal-collector?
GREG: Yes, much to my wife’s annoyance!
13. How big is your collection (LPs, CDs, Demos)?
GREG: I have around 1500 CDs and still have around 300 LPs. I’ve been gradually replacing a lot of my old LPs as they are reissued on CD.
14. What are your ten most valuable records from a collectors view?
GREG: My ten remaining sealed copies of the original Frost & Fire LP on Liquid Flames Records! I’m not sure how valuable they are, but some of my other rare metal / hard rock LPs are: MASTERS OFTHE AIRWAVES, BULL ANGUS, HEAD OVER HEELS, GOODTHUNDER, STEPSON, TIN HOUSE, BLACK SHEEP, LEFT END-Spoiled Rotten, HIGHWAY CHILE-Storybook Heroes, and SVT-No Regrets.
15. Vinyl or CD: what do you prefer and why?
GREG: I like the convenience and capacity of CDs, but I really miss the artwork on LPs.
16. What indescribable great question have you never been asked? And what would
your answer have been?
GREG: Q: Would CU like to be the warmup act for Black Sabbath’s next world tour? A: Sure, why not! Or: Q: Would CU like to be the warmup act for Metallica’s next world tour? A: F**k Off!!!!
14. What is the current status of the band and what is planned next?
GREG: We are downhearted and our ranks have been decimated but our spirits will not despair! With Jerry Fogle gone we have lost one of the greatest unheralded guitarists ever to walk the earth. But between Rob and Tim and I there is still enough chemistry to forge new metal.
We have just released “Servants Of Chaos” on Metal Blade, 2 CDs with 31 tracks spanning 1978 to 1991, almost all of them never previously released, and are busy promoting that. If “Servants Of Chaos” generates enough interest, you could hear from us again…
As always:
The being called Ungol is dead, its resurrection is doubtful. But heed it's teachings oh faithful, for on these memoratic disks contain, the wisdom of the ages, and by your iron fists, the horror, of false metal be extinguished.
As you now join the swelling ranks of the Legions of Chaos, together we will drive before us, the cringing herd of False Metal, crush their spineless lackeys, and purge the world of their mutant plague!!!
Visit our web site: Cirithungol.org All photos by Greg Hazard ©
Thanks again for your time! Your answers will be released in the Webzine of
FORGOTTEN STEEL with a link to your homepage and your email-address.
Would be great if you could have the answers ready until 01.10.2001 !!
This is a great interview-- very cool answers. Fallen Idols sounds awesome on Servants.
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Greg's lyrics on Cirith Ungol's Frost and Fire are very introspective, and I relate to them a lot. Maybe we've been through similar things growing up.
-Perry Grayson
Lyrics
The tales that speak of frost and fire
The Frost Monstreme and the Fire Divine
The frost preserves and the fire destroys
Like pouring rain on the sands of time
I feel it burning and I feel the freeze
The frost, the fire, it burns inpage of me
The tales that speak of frost and fire
The guardian angels and the demons of night
The power preserves and the Beast will destroy us
Like gathering darkness in the circle of light
I feel it burning and I feel the freeze
The frost, the fire, it burns inpage of me, yeah
I feel it burning and I feel the freeze
The frost, the fire, it burns inpage of me
The tales that speak of frost and fire
Tales of all the souls that fell
Words that burn and words that chill us
Like laughter kinding in the heart of Hell
I feel it burning and I feel the freeze
The frost, the fire, it burns inpage of me
It burns inpage of me, it burns inpage of me
Written by Greg Lindstrom
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(Sept 79) Ouch! An early version of F&F before I grew out of the 'I think this could use some more synthesizer' phase.-Greg Lindstrom, linernotes
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"GO IT ALONE".... was written during PROPHECY rehersals at Outlook Studios..in Ventura,Ca...in late 86' or early 87' as i remember. Jimmy [Barraza] was a young energetic guitarist full of great riffs...when he first played the opening riff for "GO IT ALONE"..it stood out right away...we knew it was very commercial sounding.. especially for a PROPHECY song...but we liked it alot!....KURT and JIMMY worked out the verse with "PUNKY" skilfully rounding out the arrangement..I recorded it onto an old tascam 4 track...took it home with me...next day at rehersal the song was complete....!-Scott Campbell, 08 Dec 2012 It's for sure not Greg Lindstrom's favourite CU song.
TIM BAKER told me they would like to record "GO IT ALONE"...of course i was thrilled...to have ANY part in an UNGOL album!!!..TIM changing a few lyrics to suit his taste....worked his magic!....
"GO IT ALONE"....has gone on to become ,in my opinion, perhaps the most controversial UNGOL song ever recorded....It seems you either love it..or hate it....many have blogged about it being too"commercial"....unfit for an ungol album....still others embracing it's slightly new direction ,"nice change!"as one wrote ....I see both sides....Although i do feel "GO IT ALONE"....And the whole album.. would have had a completely different feel had it been produced by CIRITH UNGOL...and not ron goudie...
“Go It Alone” should be played 24 hours a day in Afghanistan until Bin Laden runs screaming from his cave with his ears bleeding, begging for mercy.-Greg Lindstrom, Guardians of Fate 3/02
Lyrics
Don t need a crystal ball to show me where I m going,Music: Scott Campbell Lyrics Scott Campbell, lyrics re-written by Tim Baker
cause I m making it right, making it right, right this time.
Ever since you left me all I want is you,
But I m making it fine, making it fine, draw the line.
I was born with a six string in my hand,
1'll follow the dream to the end.
And I'll go it alone.
Seems without me you re just searching you keep hoping.
You are standing in line, standing in line, burning time.
never believed that Id be back on the streets,
So I'll follow the dream, follow the dream, yeah tonight.
I was born with a six string in my hand,
I'll follow the dream to the end.
And I'll go it alone.
Don t need a crystal ball to show me where I'm going,
cause I'm making it right, making it right, right this time.
With or without you, I've got to live this dream,
Cause its once in a life, once in a life, my lifetime.
I was born with a six string in my hand,
I'll follow the dream to the end.
And I'll go it alone.
Well, I have to disagree with Greg here. I love this song, surely it's not a typical CU tune but damn, it rocks! The riff is great and I've always loved the lyrics.
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Its one of our favourite band of all times. I speak with Greg and Robert from time to time trying to convice them to play at Up the Hammers festival something that can't work. We chosen the song for many reasons. One of them and the most important is that we love the song as every Cirith Ungol song ever written. The song has also a lyrical theme that is what me and Marco wanted to express after our departure from battleroar. We were born with a 6 string in our hands and we'll go it alone hehe.-Manolis "Barraza" Karazeris (guitarist), 19 Mar 2010
We had been wanting to play a Cirith Ungol cover for quite a long time, and although it's indeed an anusual choice we found out "Go It Alone" was the right one for us, for many different reasons. Our guitar player Akis loves it for its Van Halen feel, and the vocal melodies used by Tim Baker on this one are more "standard" and less complex to pull out for me compared to what he does on most of the other Cirith Ungol songs. Since it is an up tempo rocker with a big chorus it worked well live and certain parts of the lyrics reflect exactly what we are now doing, being back with Dexter Ward. I also have to say I liked this song from the first time I listened to Paradise Lost. The six strings in my hand thing, some might call it clichè, I call it the rock and roll way and fighting for your dreams ... can you get more pure and more honest than this, and most of all, more american? We are reaching our middle 30s now but for us this dream is more alive than ever.-Marco Concoreggi (vocalist), 22 Mar 2010
Mediocre!The singer sucks and doesen't stand a chance,the main solo of the song mysteriously vanished,and the atmosphere,even if this is the most catchy song of paradise lost and not so atmospheric,here it sounds like a childish junior high school party.Sorry guys even if i'm used to Cirith Ungol crap cover versions having heard (ohh my God...) one foot in fire, i'm allways pissed off when someone tries to reach out and touch the masters of the pit.Go cover wotan or doomsword,i don't give a shit,but when it comes to C.U. i seriously do give a shit.Not only every attempt turns out lame,but a serious sacrilege too!So go it alone if you like,but save us from your lonesome...!
hmm.. I see it more as a fun hymn/tribute to one of their favourite bands, not as an attempt to outperform Cirith Ungol.
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A band with Vern Green. More info needed!
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